Beshear, Fletcher Go Head-To-Head In Televised Debate
Beshear, Fletcher Go Head-To-Head In Televised Debate Save Email Print
Posted: 8:20 PM Oct 3, 2007
Last Updated: 8:46 AM Oct 4, 2007
Reporter: Marie Luby
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A popular talking point for both incumbent Ernie Fletcher and challenger Steve Beshear during the hour-long debate, was ethics; each man said the other had none.

“Twelve ordinary citizens there, that listened to all the evidence, indicted 27 of this fella's political cronies and then indicted him too,” says Beshear.

“The way you handled Kentucky Central, you said everyone was made whole but there were thousands that lost their life savings,” says Governor Fletcher.

The candidates had opposite views about teaching intelligent design in schools.

“I think there's nothing wrong with teaching that, in fact, i think to teach that is part of our founding heritage and i think it's very important,” says Fletcher.

"I believe that science ought to be taught in schools and religion ought to be taught at home and in the churches and in the synagogues,” says Beshear.

They also took opposite positions on abortion, same-sex unions, and of course, casino gaming.

Beshear says, “We’ll realize about 500 million a year in new tax revenue that we can spend on education, economic development, and health care.”

“Almost two-thirds of that will be shipped out of state. That money will come out of the economies,” says Governor Fletcher.

Both candidates opposed the idea of a statewide smoking ban. Fletcher seemed amused at Beshear's questions about his administration's political troubles in Frankfort.

“Well first, Steve, you ought to know better. Back when you were there you used to have to change your registration from Democrat to even get a job,” says Governor Fletcher.

“As an old prosecutor once told me, Steve, when you're ahead just look up and say, 'I rest my case’” says Beshear.

Political scientists say they don't expect the debate to have a major impact on the governor's race. Some polls show Beshear is leading by 17 to 20 percentage points.

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Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 10, 2007 at 08:57 PM
where you at gail this is the best economy in history you must have been asleep thats the trouble with you libs you see to much doom and gloom. cheer up gail dump liberalism and come over to a happy bunch dont let it hold your potential down soacialist democrats are bad news. gail dont watch the news for a week then come back and tell me. you will feel ten times better you wait try it no strings attached.

Posted by: STEVE on Oct 7, 2007 at 09:18 PM
HEY BEASHEAR LOVERS READ THE HEARALD LEADER NOW HE MAKES FLETCHER LOOK LIKE A ANGEL WHERE YOU AT BEN.

Posted by: BONNIE Location: STANTON on Oct 6, 2007 at 11:04 PM
I STAND BEHIND GOVERNOR FLETCHER.I THINK HE DESERVES ANOTHER FOUR YEARS.I REMEMBER WHEN WE ELECTED HIM,WE WERE ALL TIRED OF HOW KENTUCKY WAS HEADED IN A DOWN HILL SLOPE,ITS GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN A FEW YEARS TO TURN US BACK AROUND.DO YOU REALLY THINK OUR FAMILIES WILL PROSPER WITH CASINOS?NO!!!I JUST SEE MORE CHILREN GOING TO BED HUNGRY WERE THEIR PARENTS ARE ADDICTED TO GAMBLING.BESHEAR SAYS HE SINGS IN CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY.I WONDER WHILE HE SINGS IF HE THINKS ABOUT THE CHILDREN AND HOMES HE WILL DESTROY IN HIS CASINOS?

Posted by: NAthan on Oct 6, 2007 at 08:38 PM
Vote everyone, those that have not voted or have no interest to vote, better NOT complain! NO VOTE = NO Complain!

Posted by: Connie Location: Frankfort on Oct 6, 2007 at 08:18 PM
Neither Democrat nor Republicans are worth their weight in salt! All politicians are LIARS and are only interested in themselves. Neither party care about the taxpayers. Both parties would rather send our hard earned money overseas to people who don't pay a dime in taxes! I have no problems helping those who need help HERE IN AMERICA, but far too often, the government as a whole promotes laziness. If a person trys to work to get off welfare, then the government takes everything away from them, instead of helping them until they can make it on their own which would make them want to continue to work. As it is, these people can make more money NOT WORKING! And both parties are guilty of this! I'm not a party person, I do not agree with the philosphy of the Dems nor the Republicans. I vote for the individual. Which translated means I vote for the least of two evils in my opinion! Both parties stink to me as a taxpayer!

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 5, 2007 at 04:12 PM
Republicans are FAR from greedy. But what IS greedy is the Democratic.. Socialists ways of wanting to take MY money and give it to people that dont deserve it. That is called redistribution of wealth and that is GREEDY!

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 5, 2007 at 04:07 PM
Sorry to hear that Gail. Well... now you can take your hard earned money and get taxed to death so it will go towards the people that dont work. Not sure how you can be proud of a party like that.

Posted by: gail Location: winchester on Oct 5, 2007 at 01:52 PM
Personally I would be ashamed to admit in a public forum that I was a REPUBLICAN... Look what your precious republican president has done to our wonderful nation! He took it from a Democrate that had the nation on a good footing and kicked it back down to its knees begging again...! Don't blame it on democrats! Blame it on greedy republicans that want everything for themselves! I work hard for what I have and got it on my own! I haven't asked for hand outs and I am a Democrat and PROUD! of it!

Posted by: Jeb Location: KY on Oct 5, 2007 at 12:57 PM
Sorry c in fkt: with Democrats in office people get the help the expect because they don't want to get off their sorry (edited) and get a job. Spike Lee thinks the same way. Read his post thoroughly; he wants something for nothing. Liberals are nothing but social program hungry for those who don't need or deserve it. Let's give it to EVERYBODY is their motto. It doesn't make people want to try and get things on their own. I don't agree with Fletcher either, but you can't make a case that one is better than the other. Republicans can't fix years of what the Democrats screwed up in 4 years and if it was the other way around, I'd say the same thing. All politicians want your vote then when they get in, all they care about is special interest money because that helps with their re-election campaign. Everybody wants a change but nobody votes for Gaitwood. Is he the savior? Maybe not, but he would have been worth a try.

Posted by: Bill Location: Barbourville on Oct 5, 2007 at 11:51 AM
You've got to be kidding. Democrats are the ones who ALWAYS raise taxes. Now who pay's taxes? The working class people. Now of course your going to now say only the rich get tax cuts,so who owns business? The rich,and who offers employment? The business. Cut taxes on the "rich" and they can pay more to their employ. Democrats are for the working man...please.

Posted by: steve Location: irvine on Oct 5, 2007 at 10:45 AM
Its not the goverments job to babysit you dems thats the problem you guys dont think you run on emotions your like talking to a wall. And how do you think peaple gets rich they bust their backs and they are thinkers dont count on the goverment to make you rich. Its not the goverments responsability to buy your medicine that money comes from somewhere do you think that the peaple you are voting for is poor i dont think so. The difference between republicans and dems we will get rid of a sorry republican but the dems will hop in the car and instead of pushing the brakes they push the gas and the whole car load of dems go over the cliff think dudes think you have your own brain. Why dont you look at what they done for over 30 years you guys sound like soacialists Ernie has done nothing. And if you cant pay for a home DONT BUY ONE SIMPLE!I think we have a great governor the problem is we need to clean out socialist frankfort we may lose but if we do i will not be going away gooday dems.

Posted by: ben Location: lex on Oct 5, 2007 at 10:04 AM
Maybe the "Dems" will teach Steve basic 2nd grade grammer....

Posted by: Steve Location: Lexington on Oct 5, 2007 at 09:41 AM
to c in Frankfort. The Democrats DO promote lazyness through their entitlement agenda. They want YOU to rely on them! It is NOT up to the Govt. to take care of us... that is YOUR responsibility! When people STOP relying on the Govt for everything they become more self sufficient... and thats what Republicans are about. So... YOUR party is the party that promotes laziness and rewards people that are too lazy to go out and make things happen in their life. Instead.. your party rewards them to be lazy and get benefits that us working people are paying for.And yes.. the economy is just fine. People are in debt and losing their homes because they were/are irresponsible. It is not the Govt's. responsibilty to make sure a person is wise enough to purchase a home or items they cant afford!That is YOUR responsibility.. not the Govt's. Stop relying on the Govt to take care of you and think they owe you something... which they don't.

Posted by: c Location: fkt on Oct 5, 2007 at 08:11 AM
Sorry Steve, but at least with Democrats in office, people get the help they need. Republicans think only of themselves and DO NOT CARE about the working people! Democrats will at least help the working class of people. I don't see that from Republicans! They promote laziness by giving help to those who WILL not work while punishing those of us who do work!The economy is NOT fine! More unemployment, more debt, more taxes, foreclosures on homes! Working people who have to choose between groceries and medication! No, the economy is not fine unless you are rich Steve! Open your eyes and look around! Fletcher is a joke! Furthermore, any state employee that votes for the man, needs their head examined! Fletcher IS AGAINST STATE WORKERS! Beshear will at least be back some morale to state employees! I think Beshear will be good for the KY's ecomony too! Perhaps, working people will be able to get some help too and not just those who WILL NOT WORK! I'm with you Spike, Beshear is the man for me!

Posted by: steve on Oct 4, 2007 at 11:23 PM
libs we are on our way count on it.

Posted by: steve on Oct 4, 2007 at 03:15 PM
Ernie done the right thing when you have a nifong in frankfort down your neck you would do the same and i totally resent the way these democrats do allways trying to steal election instead of debating them well i will not go away on the socialist dems oh yea we have a great economy vote liband see your taxes go up and the jobs leave town.

Posted by: steve Location: irvine on Oct 4, 2007 at 03:09 PM
Yea thats exacly right some polls has beashear ahead well its not mine its the biased liberal meidias. We will have to wait till voting time i dont think beashear is that popularmy god he acts like he is as clean as the wind driven snow gees peaple has more sense than that. We are not worried about the con artists trying to railroad Ernie .

Posted by: paul Location: paris on Oct 4, 2007 at 01:04 PM
why is ky.in the shape it's in? problem democrat why is the united states in the shape it's in? problem democrat if you want do nothing policies then elect a democrat

Posted by: Steve Location: Lexington on Oct 4, 2007 at 09:59 AM
A bad year for KY in the news....because of weather?? Thats a stupid statement! Having Democrats in State Govt. and in the White House is NOT the answer!This state was "lead" by Democrats for years and they did nothing, and were NOT without corruption. And by the way....our economy is just fine. Not even close to going downhill!

Posted by: SPIKE LEE OF KY.BB Location: LEX.KY. on Oct 4, 2007 at 09:45 AM
I HAVE A DREAM THAT COME NOVEMBER KY.WILL STEP UP FOR CHANGE,CHANGE OF THE GUARD AND ELECT STEVE BESHEAR.FLETCHER THINKS KY. IS STUPID.SINCE HIS WATCH,HE HAS PUNISHED AND DEMORALIZED PEOPLE OF KY.WE CANNOT AND WILL NOT SIT IDLY AND TAKE ANY MORE RISKS WITH FLETCHER &CO.KY.HAS VALUES,BESHEAR HAS VALUES AND SUBSTANCE.AUTHENTICITY COUNTS,I HAVE A DREAM THAT BESHEAR IS WORTHY OF YOUR VOTE.NO MORE BLAH,BLAH,BLAH WITH FLETCHER&CO.I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS ELECTION FOR QUITE SOMETIME,FLETCHER STATED HE HAS EDUCATED US,I BEG THE DIFFER.I AM CONFIDENT AND FEEL COMFY WITH BESHEAR.I ASK KY. TO JOIN WITH ME AS WE TAKE KY. BACK.WE HAVE AUTHENTICITY WITH BESHEAR.I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO VOTE WITH YOUR HEART.YOUR HEART CANNOT LIKE FLETCHER & CO.THE LAST 4YRS.HAS BEEN DISASTROUS.WE WILL GET RELIEF WITH BESHEAR.KY.WANTS CHANGE,BESHEAR WILL BRING CHANGE.I BEG THAT YOU AND I TAKE THIS.BESHEAR WILL BRING US UP IN THE POLLS NATIONALLY.COME NOV.IT WILL BE A DINING MOMENT.BESHEAR IT.LET'S ROLL.

Posted by: gail Location: somewhere on Oct 4, 2007 at 08:11 AM
I hope all of the kentuckians go out and vote and hope they remember what has happened NOT what is being promised! Promises seem to never be kept. I can see what Fletcher did while in office and that he pardoned everyone in the situation. That was totally UNETHICAL I do NOT believe that KY can stand another term of unethical issues. It has been a bad year for KY in the news, with the weather, and even politics. Maybe it is time for a change. As far as politics and religion it has been separated and shouldn't have been in the being maybe if you had kept God in the proceedings things wouldn't have gotten this bad in the good ole USA... But Democrats is what we need right now in state government and in the white house I hope everyone realizes that after the last two rediculous terms and how our economy has went down hill!

Posted by: Mary Location: Stanton on Oct 4, 2007 at 07:29 AM
I watched the debate on the internet and I thought Steve Beshear did a good job. All I can say about Fletcher is he needs to quit beating a dead horse {Kentucky Central] it "ain't gonna ride" He rode the casinos horse to death and it didn't get him anywhere.

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