Lawmaker Proposes Elimination of State Income Tax
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Posted: 6:34 PM Nov 19, 2008
Last Updated: 8:36 PM Nov 19, 2008
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A haircut at Jerry's Barber Shop in Somerset costs $9. It's a service that's currently tax free. But what if you had to pay 45 cents a haircut in taxes, but in return you didn't have any state income tax taken from your paycheck?

“Yeah, I'd go for that,” says Bill Broussard of Somerset.

Representative Bill Farmer is about to file a bill to eliminate state income taxes for individuals and businesses. The sales tax would be dropped from 6% to 5%, yet some services, like haircuts, would be taxed.

“We've tweaked the system that we know is not capable of sustaining the economy, it's going to drastically change the system we're doing,” said Rep. Bill Farmer, R-Lexington.

Mike Sullivan runs a cellular phone business in Pulaski County and says less income taxes puts more dollars in his customers pockets.

“They’ll have more money. We have 36,000 cars that pass by the store daily (on U.S. 27.) And if they have more money in their pockets, to me, they're more apt to stop by,” said Sullivan.

The plan is revenue neutral. That means it won't bring a whole lot more money into Kentucky, but it won't cost the state much either.

Farmer says the bill should attract more businesses.

“When businesses look at places to locate, they look at the tax structure, and if there is no income tax, that's one less thing they have to worry about and one less thing they have to plan for,” said Farmer.

Besides haircuts, other services that could be taxed include car repairs and plumbing work.

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Posted by: Hate Taxes on Nov 27, 2008 at 10:43 PM
What morons elected this nut, the tree he fell out of?

Posted by: jeremy Location: somerset on Nov 26, 2008 at 11:16 AM
Less state tax is not the way. State government is more effective and efficient than our uncostitutional federal taxes.

Posted by: bobby Location: somerset on Nov 25, 2008 at 09:26 AM
this is the only fair way to tax im all for it but make it about 8% lets make KY #1

Posted by: David G. Location: Ky. on Nov 23, 2008 at 04:23 PM
A lot of Kentucky residents are retired or on social security. This would burden them with taxes they don't have to pay right now. Seems Frankfort wants to milk more than the family cow. Can't you just see Fox news doing a story on ungroomed Kentucky retirees? Half the cars in the state sitting beside the road torn up. So watch for Bill the Farmer coming for the milk with three buckets instead of one.

Posted by: c Location: fkt on Nov 23, 2008 at 02:20 PM
Flordia already does this & it works great for them! I think it's the FAIREST type of tax going! While I don't agree on lower the sales tax, I this idea is a very good one. Like someone else commented, EVERYONE will have to pay then & not just those of us who work!

Posted by: Steve Location: Lexington on Nov 23, 2008 at 10:21 AM
The people who are complaining the most about this are the ones who live in counties that have the highest SSI and Disability rates in the nation. Could it be because you DON'T PAY INCOME TAX NOW, and so you don't want to give the state 45 cents on that haircut you get once a month? This idea is good all the way around. I pay several hundred dollars a month in state income tax, but I bet if you added 6% to "services" that most use, it wouldn't amount to 20 dollars a month for me in additional sales taxes. Now, if I were on the draw, it might be a bad proposition because I would have to pay more, but ya know what, it's the WORKER that keeps your checks coming, so it's time that I get a break from some taxes like you enjoy every day of your life.

Posted by: ls Location: eastern KY on Nov 22, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Sounds like misplaced Texan from Anderson County needs to go back to Texas. You are awful quick to judge people from eastern KY. How do you think central KY got their money to build their cities up. Eastern KY cold money. There was no reason for you to stereotype people from Eastern KY. That just shows how stupid and backward you are.

Posted by: wayne Location: ky on Nov 22, 2008 at 03:04 PM
this senator must have voted for obama because it is stupit the state will be taxing all and anything to do with LABOR. ALL LABOR WILL BE TAXED,AT THE DEALERE SHIP WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR CAR WORKED ON LOOK AT THE LABOR RATE YOU HAVE BEEN CHARGED THEN ADD 5%/6% ON THAT you will not have more but you will have LESS in the long run. goverment isn`t going to give you anything for nothing.!

Posted by: David Location: Georgetown on Nov 22, 2008 at 06:08 AM
Adding 6% tax to services would have made the trailier haul in Carlisle $212 instead of $200 and may have prevented the whole fiasco, I say go for it!!! As for discrimination, senior discounts at Kroger and Kohls sure aren't for us raising a family and working 12 hours a day, so stop complaining about paying an extra .50 on your haircut.

Posted by: Johnny Location: Whitesburg on Nov 21, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Texas sucks! If its so great misplaced why did you leave and come to Kentucky? Where you are taxed to death one way or another.

Posted by: k Location: floyd on Nov 21, 2008 at 09:28 PM
Just like other stated, no income tax. They just make another tax to replace it.

Posted by: Tax Payer on Nov 21, 2008 at 09:08 PM
I sure hope this goes through, I would like to keep the almost 400.00 a month I pay in state taxes in my pocket. And finally all the deadbeats that are sitting back drawing their checks can see what it is like to have to actually pay taxes.

Posted by: steve on Nov 21, 2008 at 04:38 PM
Yea misplaced Texan you cant talk to ignorant liberals they have about as much sense as god give a goose.

Posted by: Jay Location: KY on Nov 21, 2008 at 12:48 PM
Don't you think if they were to do away with state taxes, they would stick it to us some other way???

Posted by: aenlow Location: Versailles on Nov 21, 2008 at 06:55 AM
There is no way this tax plan will work with a Dem Gov that is still brewing over not getting Casinos to save the KY economy. Even if the bill passed Congress, Gov B would veto.

Posted by: Misplaced Texan Location: Anderson Co. on Nov 21, 2008 at 12:38 AM
That Texas "no state and local income tax" thing is great. I can attest! And to the gentleman from Whitesburg, I can not think of a better idea to help ground Kentucky's economy and give the young people of this state more incentive to stay than the elimination of income taxes. Of course, I wouldn't expect a bastion of backwards thinking to be anywhere BUT eastern Kentucky, so I'm not surprised.

Posted by: Kaye Location: Kimper ky on Nov 20, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Hey I think it would be the best thing ever if they did away with the income taxes.. At least we all will have a lot more money in our pocket to get the things that we need and be able to treat urself a little better.. I hope they do it on State and federal taxes we all can live with paying taxes on like haircuts and etc. that wouldn;t be so bad.. Face it u always pay in more taxes then what u get back at the end of the year. and besides that u only get it 1 time a year and now or then u get it all year long and think about how much you are going to be able to save and invest... I think YES this should happen and Hopefully it will thanks

Posted by: Steve Location: Lexington on Nov 20, 2008 at 09:26 PM
Another thought...legalize prostitution and marijuana and tax them too! Then you could eliminate the property tax that burdens all of us and the state would never have to worry about needing money again.

Posted by: Steve Location: Lexington on Nov 20, 2008 at 09:24 PM
I'm all for it. I lived in a state that didn't have an income tax (Washington) for a short time and it was great to have more money to take home, however, they had to make up for it with a HIGHER sales tax. I say if you keep the sales tax at 6 percent, and eliminate the income tax, the state would make a little more to meet the budget constraints and provide better services, and we the people would really get to keep more of our money in our pockets. And to whoever says this is a bad idea for the people, you must be brain-dead...if you're paying 6 percent sales now, and 6 percent sales after this is done, yet, you eliminate the income tax...you WILL have more of your money in your pocket, which is always good. Just do NOT tax medications, food, and auto repair because these are staples that people must have in order to live in this day and age, so we shouldn't start taxing it. Haircuts, manicures, etc...TAX them like you do everything else we buy.

Posted by: Zeke Location: Olin on Nov 20, 2008 at 07:50 PM
Is Farmer up for reelection or what`s the deal? You people that left and didn`t have to pay income tax in other states, what the he_ _ did you come back to K.Y. for if you was so much better off, just to impress the rest of us.

Posted by: Steve C. Location: Berea, KY on Nov 20, 2008 at 07:23 PM
This would definitely bring in more businesses and jobs to the state. But, good luck getting the democrats to go along with it. Unless, of course, Beshear can somehow claim it as his idea.

Posted by: Stanley-Simmons Location: Lexington on Nov 20, 2008 at 07:07 PM
Can you say "Shell Game"?

Posted by: Gary Location: Sidney on Nov 20, 2008 at 06:17 PM
Now that's a great idea! Finally, we see a good proposal from our politicians. There may be hope for us yet.

Posted by: Goebel Location: Lexington on Nov 20, 2008 at 05:48 PM
Anyone want to bet we will end up paying both?

Posted by: Walter on Nov 20, 2008 at 04:25 PM
April fools joke, think about it.

Posted by: Jim on Nov 20, 2008 at 03:37 PM
This will never happen in ky, have you EVER known them to lower taxes---it's only a dream folks.

Posted by: Kissimmee Kid Location: Frankfort on Nov 20, 2008 at 02:10 PM
Hey the state of Florida has had the no state income tax for years. While we lived down there, it was soooo wonderful !

Posted by: Susan Location: Winchester on Nov 20, 2008 at 01:01 PM
At least if they did this, then those people who don't work and aren't subject to the state income tax would have to contribute their fair share. I dont' know how this would affect the state's bottom line but it is more fair to those of us who work.

Posted by: WHAT Location: IRVINE on Nov 20, 2008 at 01:00 PM
I AGREE WITH BILL,DO AWAY WITH PROPRTY TAXES IF YOU WANT TO HELP PEOPLE,THIS IS STUPID RIGHT OVER AND OVER,YOU CAN NEVER GET SOMETHING PAID FOR

Posted by: Leaving Kentucky in 2009 on Nov 20, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Oh ye ignorant citizens, nothing is free. One way or another the state will get the same amount of tax money out of you.

Posted by: Linda Location: Eastern KY on Nov 20, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Elimination of the State Income tax and taxing services is the equivalent of Robbing Peter to pay Paul. What services will be taxed? Are lawyers going to be taxed? And at what rate? Mr. Farmer says businesses looking for a place to locate looks at our tax structure, but if they are a service based business their accounting department would have to deal with those taxes as opposed to income tax. We may see a little more on our checks but we will be paying it out in taxed service fees like hair cuts, lawer fees, auto repairs (we pay taxes on parts but not on the service and a lot of repair shops get $50.00 or more an hour).

Posted by: chris Location: dallas texas on Nov 20, 2008 at 12:22 PM
I moved my company, sold my house, and moved to Texas. The income tax of Kentucky was the reason. The corporate tax rate is to high in Ky. 22 employees relocated. Change the tax code, I may come back.

Posted by: Angie Location: Prestonsburg on Nov 20, 2008 at 12:06 PM
I think it is a wonderful idea. I would like to see that money added to my paycheck for me instead of keeping non-workers up. I would also like to point out to Johnny in Whitesburg that we already do pay taxes on toilet tissue and bras.

Posted by: johnnyt on Nov 20, 2008 at 11:44 AM
i would like to see the numbers and items that they are using for this. while i would like for the removal of my income taxes, i just dont know what services i get now that are not taxed. i just dont see how by cutting out the income tax reducing the sales tax can be made up by taxing hair cuts. what services are out their that are not taxed?

Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 20, 2008 at 10:38 AM
Sounds like a good idea. In no way could the state generate the money from taxing services like it would from income. But still, I'd like to get the governments hand out of my pocket and give a middle finger to the non-working wellfare people. We are already taxed to death, give the money back to the people.

Posted by: Zatoichi Location: Richmond on Nov 20, 2008 at 10:10 AM
Lawmaker Proposes State Income Tax on Elimination.

Posted by: William Location: Lexington on Nov 20, 2008 at 09:39 AM
I am a retiree, on a fixed income. I have paid State Income Tax all my life, till now. To me, this is discrimination against the elderly,since now they will tax what services we require. This will help the young at the expense of the elderly.

Posted by: Terri on Nov 20, 2008 at 07:58 AM
Best news ever, I once lived in tenn and it was great not paying income tax.

Posted by: Bill on Nov 20, 2008 at 07:33 AM
In a cash bis- it won't be turned in to goverment. if they want to help then do away with properity tax'es.The countys are sucking us dry.All we do now is pay for the same properity over, and over.Its very unfair.

Posted by: Zatoichi Location: Richmond on Nov 20, 2008 at 04:29 AM
I'd have more money for tattoos.

Posted by: Thurman on Nov 19, 2008 at 10:41 PM
sounds very fair since 60-70% of the population does not work and draws some kind of tax free check. At least they could contribute something to betterment of the community and state.

Posted by: Johnny Location: Whitesburg on Nov 19, 2008 at 09:41 PM
Sounds like a politician to me. Tax hair cuts, Ha I'm bald along with over 25,000 other Kentuckians. What would Farmer tax next? You toilet paper by the roll, sex tax for you and your wife, tax your wife's bra, tax your moustache, tax your beard, get your oil changed for 24.50 and get taxed 40.00, If you're above normal body weight-tax you by the pound, tax your pulled tooth, tax your dog, tax your cat, tax your mother-in-law <--that one is ok!, tax your bird (parakeet), tax your hemoroids-nusance tax they just hang around doing nothing like our politicians in Frankfort, How about taxing our stupid politicians in Frankfort every time they do something or say something stupid! Or come up with stupid ideas like this one. That would solve our states money problem.

Posted by: Bob Location: KY on Nov 19, 2008 at 09:22 PM
This would be great, I hope it goes through. This past check alone the state kept almost $90 so it would be nice to keep that on my check.

Posted by: Ridiculus Location: Kentucky on Nov 19, 2008 at 08:38 PM
WHY fix a problem that isn't broken? We need to find new alternative ways to bring in revenue. Gambling should not be considered! There are plenty of other ways to create a better cashflow in the state.

Posted by: JOE Location: KY on Nov 19, 2008 at 08:26 PM
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH MR. FARMER WE ARE TAXED TO DEATH NOW ANY TIME THE SCHOOL OR LIBARY OR HEALTH DEP . WANTS TO RAISE TAXES ALL THEY DO IS RAISE THEM WE DONT HAVE A SAY

Posted by: steve on Nov 19, 2008 at 06:45 PM
Go for it guys sounds good to me.

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