Senator Turner Urges Congress to Amend the Social Security Act
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Posted: 12:21 PM Jan 21, 2008
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FRANKFORT - In a news release issued Monday, Senator Johnny Ray Turner, D-Drift, filed a Senate Resolution Friday urging the United States Congress to amend Title II of the Social Security Act to repeal the Government Pension Offset and Windfall Elimination provisions.

The Senator's office released the following statment regarding the Congressman's recent actions:

"The Government Pension Offset and Windfall Elimination provisions have inequitable effects on many teachers, firefighters, police, postal workers, and others who have struggled their entire working careers to supplement family budgets and retirement savings with part-time and summer jobs where they paid into Social Security," said Turner, a former educator.

The Government Pension Offset provision reduces public employees' Social Security spousal or survival benefits by up to two-thirds of their
public pension.

The Windfall Elimination provision greatly reduces the earned Social Security benefits of an individual who also receives a public pension
from a job not covered by Social Security.

Kentucky is one of the 15 states most impacted by these provisions.

The National Education Association estimates that 300,000 individuals are losing an average of $3,600 a year due to the Government Pension
Offset provision.

Turner said the Windfall Elimination provision impacts the teaching profession because people are less likely to leave other careers in which they earn Social Security benefits to become educators.

The Government Pension Offset and Windfall Elimination provisions have the severest effect on widowed lower-income women who have worked hard for years and can least afford reduced benefits.

"The amount lost due to such provisions can make the difference between self-sufficiency and poverty," Turner said.

Turner, who has served in the State Senate since 2001, represents the
29th District which includes Floyd, Breathitt, Knott and Letcher counties.

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Posted by: Mary Location: Ky on Jan 23, 2008 at 11:49 AM
In defense of teachers..they could never be paid enough for what they do. Some of the parents are their biggest problem. Some parents think their great kid, that disturbs class daily & never follows rules, should never be punished for anything they do. Parents think teachers should turn their heads like they do at home. Thats part of the reason we have drug addicts now..NO DISCIPLINE and no consequences for your actions, neither at home or at school just because parents forbid it & threathen law suits if teachers do discipline. When I attended school if we got a spanking or got in trouble at school we were in trouble when we got home from our parents. It did not hurt us one bit & made us dread the consequences if we had bad behavior. And we turned out fine. Teachers road is not easy & parents should remember this. Maybe our kids could learn to at least read if discipline was turned back to the teachers since it is not done at home.

Posted by: Bob Location: Howard on Jan 22, 2008 at 05:26 PM
I worked hard since high school to pay for my college education the entire time SS was being deducted. I then went on and worked in the mines for 15 years paying into SS. I then went into education and worked 20 years. I have 45 credits in SS that I should be allowed. The time and funds I paid into SS should be mine. I praise Mr. Turner and hope that people see the light on how unfair it is to take those funds from us all those years and then not allow is to have that for our families.

Posted by: Mary Location: Ky on Jan 22, 2008 at 04:45 PM
Well what is the answer for me. I worked all my life until I became disabled & paid into SS but cannot draw one dime, even though I am disabled, until I turn 70??..whatever the age is. I had no idea you had to apply for disability within 5 years after you stop working. So I doubt I will live long enough to ever draw one cent. If you pay it in it should be yours & just because I did not apply before the 5 yr. deadline should not matter. I did not know that law existed. I am telling this so no one else will make the same mistake that I made. You get punished because you worked in the first place. Had I never worked I could have drawn SSI. Isn't that just a joke.

Posted by: Concerned Location: Eastern Kentucky on Jan 22, 2008 at 02:50 PM
Bill do you not realize teachers are paid to establish and set the foundation of our children's future? Would you want your life in an uneducated grown adults hands? Well in case you are still living in the 1960's, the money that we pay in taxes goes to teacher's thus in return educate our children whom in return lead our future. I think they meaning everyone involved directly or indirectly with the education department should be paid more. A good education is the best thing to whom every person has a RIGHT to. But with YOUR president there is no worry in any budget or funding increases, simply because Bush-onomics has ran this great nation we call America dry. YOUR Republican counter-parts have created us a nice, steady economy right? Thats why the headline of the todays news reads "WALL STREET has begun a downward spiral." Remember this when you go to the polls this November. God speed....P.S: We have already been skinned, cured and waiting to be proccessed at the hands of Republic

Posted by: Sandra Location: eastern on Jan 22, 2008 at 02:26 PM
After I worked and paid into social security for twenty-seven years, I returned to college and received my teaching degree. I taught for ten years before retiring. Yes, I receive a state retirement, and I also will be receiving my social security benefits when I file later this year. I FEEL I should be entitled to my FULL social security benefits without any deductions due to the Windfall Elimination Provision. THANK YOU Mr. Turner, and please keep this on your agenda.

Posted by: teacher Location: eastern ky on Jan 22, 2008 at 02:15 PM
Bill--the bill is not a proposal to "give" these classes of workers more. This bill is to protect the rights of these individuals not to be robbed of their hard earned money. Those who have paid into the Social Security program should be allowed to benefit from it. Carl--You are assuming that these classes of workers are asking for something extra. That is wrong. They are simply asking to qualify for money that has ALREADY BEEN PAID into Social Security by these people working other jobs. We are not coming after yours or anyone else's. Yes, these classes of workers draw retirement from their prospective fields. Retirement that is paid out of their salaries...therefore money they are entitled to. To address your argument over health insurance: My insurance does offer fairly decent coverage. However, to provide the best coverage I can for my family, it would take over $500 out of every check. That is not so cheap! It helps to understand the issue before you comment.

Posted by: stewart Location: mont. on Jan 22, 2008 at 12:52 PM
If Bill thinks teachers are overpaid, let him come and teach class for a week and a teacher will do his job. Thanks to a teacher he can read and write.

Posted by: Bill on Jan 22, 2008 at 08:13 AM
Teachers are very over paid, for what they do now.Why should we give them more. While the state screams for more money,by raising taxes.Come on people we can only give away so much money. We are driving our people broke. We better start moving out of Ky. The democrats are getting ready to skin us alive.

Posted by: Ruby Location: 40769 on Jan 21, 2008 at 07:37 PM
Senator Turner I thank uou for your interest in this unfair pension offset. Please keep it #1 on your list.

Posted by: carl Location: eastern on Jan 21, 2008 at 05:34 PM
I believe that the law does not allow the average worker the benifet of not paying into the SS admin and recieving benifets this would just strain the already drained program let me understand something doesnt these class of the population draw a retirement already from the prospective fields?like teachers already get payed from their own fund that should be the way it stays or else give normal people who work maybe more yrs than 20 the same opportunity like add 3,000 a yr to their fund so when they work 40 rs they get 3000 x 20 added to there bottom line lets keep things fair not anymore one sided than senators and such getting double and better health care than the rest of us or better yet give us the same allow us to have the same raises and the same health benifets as these called "underprivilaged workers politicians etc my health insurance in no way is as good as theirs.. unhappy with the proposition (lets all call and let OUR VOICES KNOWN about this bad idea

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