Two Suspects Arrested In Obama Effigy

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Posted: 5:26 PM Oct 30, 2008
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Police have arrested two suspects in the effigy of Presidential candidate Barack Obama on the campus of the University of Kentucky.

The two suspects have been identified as Hunter Bush and Joe Fischer. They're charged with disorderly Conduct 2nd, Burglary 2nd, and theft by unlawful taking. Fischer is a UK student.

Someone found the effigy hanging from a tree on the University of Kentucky campus.

The item was discovered Wednesday morning in a tree along a walkway from Rose Street to the William T. Young Library.

It was immediately cut down from the tree.

President Lee Todd said he was "disgusted" by the discovery. Governor Steve Beshear also issued a statement saying he "strongly agrees" with President Todd.

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Posted by: victoria Location: richmond on Apr 14, 2009 at 11:16 AM
This news is 6 months old (Obama effigy), why do you still have it on your site? I don't see anything about the Palin effigytyhat was up in another state. Wasn't that a hate crime against women?

Posted by: Warrior Location: KY on Feb 22, 2009 at 06:03 PM
I've fought for the freedom & rights of all people that are citizens of this country, regardless of color. One of those rights is the Freedom of Speech. Also, as a Native American, I get tired of this Race Card being played by some groups. Get over it, we have. And we got screwed alot worst than the blacks.

Posted by: SaddleSore Location: Ky on Dec 4, 2008 at 07:50 PM
Would Beshear have cared if it had been an effigy of a Republican? Probably not!!!!!

Posted by: Michel Location: NYC on Nov 5, 2008 at 06:52 PM
in West Hollywood CA, 2 men hung an effigy of Sarah Palin in their front yard. they insisted on not taking it down claiming that it's for Halloween and everyone seemed satisfied with that and allowed them to keep the effigy up. now, especially since the democrats are bringing back the fairness doctrine, where is the fairness in this? first of all i don't want to hear that it's racial. somehow, although nooses were used throughout history, it is now racist to have a hangman's noose hanging anywhere. we used to make hangman's nooses as kids because they looked cool. we knew nothing about racism. but god forbid anyone do this nowadays because they will be targeted as racist. oh, unless of course you are hanging effigies of white people. that's ok because it's time the whites pay back for all the bad things that have happened to blacks. even though most white people in the modern usa had nothing to do with slavery or any kind of racism whatsoever. but let's make them PAY! [edited]

Posted by: Nerva Location: Cooper Texas on Nov 5, 2008 at 06:28 PM
Im Glad We Have A Black President IT Time For Changes For Everybody

Posted by: Larry Location: Earth on Nov 4, 2008 at 08:52 AM
What is the deal with this candlelight vigil planned for Wednesday? Has the University lost all common sense? Don't you know this will only "keep the pot stired"? You've already made a big enough deal out of this incident to maintain your minority population. They won't run off to UL. Enough is enough!

Posted by: mich Location: ozz on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:23 AM
Why is there so much hate from all of the comments? I mean, hello people! I hear some saying that they are "embarassed" to be a Kentuckian because of this act. But, I'm not embarassed to be a kentukian. The act involved 2 people, not the entire state. And actually, no people i know, are not like this. Kentucky has some of the friendliest people I have ever met. I believe each country, each state, and each type of person has its own "defect". Please, people, come on. Think about Obama, his "morals" and "values", and get on www.obama.com and PLEASE PLEASE read about his "plan" for America, OVERALL! Compare with McCains' plans, and see that Obamas' plan adds up and McCains does not. It is imperative that we vote according to who has more experience with a 'brain--> Obama" as opposed to more experience with a 'gun--> McCain'. WHY? Because one must have enough sense to aim it and pull the trigger. Obama aims right on target. Where is McCain aiming America? Do you wanna know? VOTE OBAMA!

Posted by: Bill on Nov 3, 2008 at 06:20 AM
They shouldn't be so mad about this,haven't you heard Obama says he will bank erupt the coal industry.If he is elected.Turn the men lose,hug thier necks.

Posted by: m Location: lex ky on Nov 3, 2008 at 01:04 AM
This has been blown way out of proportion!!! College prank! i seen the effigy of sarah palin, and there is no difference. Put the race card down and let's deal with human issues, not race ones. Some people will change, some people wont, and those that won't still have the right to their own beliefs. You cannot change that. So focus on the ones that are ready to make a difference and move FORWARD from there. Everyone is too busy looking in hindsight.

Posted by: Mindy Location: Lex on Nov 2, 2008 at 05:20 PM
Typical Lexington racism. Don't like African-Americans, Mexicans, blah, blah. Unless they coach a winning UK basketball team, though. Then it's all hunky-dory. Pathetic. This town needs to change and get with the present!!!

Posted by: Mom Location: KY on Nov 2, 2008 at 04:55 PM
It is my opinion that all this talk about the effigy being because of racism is just plain stupid. They did a stupid thing, but it has been taken too far. I am sick of black people yelling racism every time you turn around. I am sure that there are black people who are racist against white people because I have seen it myself. I think they use the race card to their advantage and I am absolutely sick of hearing it all the time. If Obama gets it for president we are all in trouble. The deal about slavery and hanging black people and all that was over a long time ago, and they need to leave it in the history books and just shut up and quit their whining and wanting everybody to feel sorry for them. Our ancestors lived a hard life when they came here to make a better life for themselves. They all had different areas of the community to live in and there was a lot of hatred back then, but they got over it. We don't hear them going around making people feel sorry for them.

Posted by: Chris Location: NONEYA on Nov 2, 2008 at 03:04 PM
I'd like to know where the evidence is that John McCain incited any violence?? This is pure stupidity on the part of the person that made the comment. Gag at a gnat and swallow a camel...words from the Bible. Halloween pranks should be treated as such. As a friend of mine would say..DONT GET YOUR PANTIES IN A WAD!!

Posted by: char62 on Nov 2, 2008 at 02:09 PM
It should not be a surprise to anyone that the usual "posse" is out on their fact finding mission to promote the race card as much as they can. A Sarah Palin effigy gets hung from the rafters and there is barely a spark out there, but Obama gets the same treatment and hundreds..no even thousands of "concerned"citizens are outraged and dismayed! I personally feel that what the students did was terrible and their judgement was way out of line,but this type of outrage should apply to all not to one certain group because of their skin color. The news media is doing their job by keeping fuel on the fire that is stirring up animosity and resentment between all races. Our country is on a spiral tailspin and the racial lines are only widening more with this type of blatant hypocritical rot that keeps stinking up our state and country.

Posted by: clay on Nov 2, 2008 at 01:21 PM
Dr Lee Fraud was outraged, what a joke, 2 knuckleheads acting stupid, not criminal. Dr Fraud donate your bonus to researching knucklehead behavior and you write your life history to demostrate the power of phony

Posted by: Fedup Location: Frankfort on Nov 2, 2008 at 08:10 AM
These people need to get a life! There are no slaves today & we cannot do anything about what happened 200 years ago or even yesterday! It's all about race or sexuality these days & I for one am sick of hearing this stupidity! Not everyone is equal & we need to stop lying to our children that they will be. Don't believe me? Then take a good look around you. There are the homeless, then there's the rich. There are the healthy, then there's the sick. WE ARE NOT EQUAL AND NEVER WILL BE IN THIS LIFE. So stop dreaming & just make do with whatever you have & stop whinning every time someone hurts you're feelings! Start thinking of someone else OTHER THAN YOURSELF! As far as this election, Obama is just out to make history & McCain will try. I vote for Nadar and the hell with the dems & reps!

Posted by: windy Location: lancaster on Nov 2, 2008 at 07:17 AM
why can`t college kids be college kids? what happened to the palin effigy, duh? kids having fun is not racism.

Posted by: think Location: Iowa City on Nov 1, 2008 at 10:33 PM
If they'd hung an effigy of President Bush, they would have got College Credit

Posted by: Deborah Location: Wellington on Nov 1, 2008 at 06:29 PM
To me, both of these incidents were done in very poor taste whether on private property or public. There was a definite lack of respect shown for the people who are running for leadership roles of our country. While we may not agree with these candidates, at least we can be more respectful of them. We need to be informed of the truth concerning those seeking office and I don't think that we can say that the news media has shown both parties the same kind of coverage. Be very careful to not be lead down the path of destruction by your feelings, but use your brain to think about what each candidate stands for on the most important issues concerning this country. If we fail to elect a person who LOVES the USA and has proven it over and over, but instead fall for a person with no experience and has very radical associates who have influenced his life and decisions, then we will reap the result of our ignorant decision. Vote wisely, America! Vote for people who LOVE the USA!!

Posted by: dawn Location: dana point on Nov 1, 2008 at 05:09 PM
Think about the American history of violence against blacks, and how recently in our history segregation and actual mob violence. It breaks my heart 2 think some losers still believe this is ok. McCain inciting violence and hate at his rallies isn't helping anything either.

Posted by: cole Location: Tampa on Nov 1, 2008 at 01:12 PM
Better Vote McCain/Palin or prepare for the end of US dominance if Obama gets in.

Posted by: c Location: ky on Nov 1, 2008 at 01:04 PM
This incident happened after the effigy of McCain and Palin was aired on national TV, the news media asked the question, I wonder how this would have been viewed if it was Obama instead. Guess we know now. It was viewed as a hate crime. It is ok to hang a white woman, but not a black man. I think that both should be considered a hate crime, and if it is ok for one to be considered OK both should be considered OK. I do think they should be proscuted for theft, but I do not see how they will get a fair trail. The media has made too much out of this situation.

Posted by: Kelly Location: KY on Nov 1, 2008 at 11:19 AM
From the second he's voted in, no one will ever be able to criticize a thing Obama does without someone yelling racism.

Posted by: Justin Location: London on Nov 1, 2008 at 10:28 AM
Those two guys need to get Jesus Christ into their lives.

Posted by: sm Location: g-town on Nov 1, 2008 at 08:44 AM
I agree with DR! If you dont like it MOVE!

Posted by: Kaye Location: Prestonsburg Ky on Nov 1, 2008 at 08:14 AM
They should have thought about what they were doing. I don't think it would have mattered where they put the effigy, the Media and most people would have been offended. I am voting for McCain I am not a Obama fan but I still think this should not have happened.

Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 1, 2008 at 06:34 AM
UK has put kentucky on the map. Not for research but for a hanging. It's on national TV.

Posted by: Mary Location: eky on Nov 1, 2008 at 04:59 AM
I for one, think this was done because of the effigy of Palin. As for the race issue, people like to "over think" when things like this happen. Lets not forget the ones who will not let the past die! I don't go around everyday thinking how the white man has opressed. As for being "African American", you can only use that if you were actually born in africa!! If you were born in the United States, then you are an american, plain and simple. My ancestors are irish, but I don't go around calling myself "Irish American." The race card is only used for one purpose, division of peoples. As for Obama, who has an illegal aunt in Boston, is now trying to figure out a way to reverse his stance on the economy AFTER the election, and a lot of other reasons not to elect him. Research before you vote. I for one vote on the candidates stance on certain issues and not on the color of his/her skin.

Posted by: Jonathan on Nov 1, 2008 at 04:55 AM
If you want to look at racism at its best, look at Obamas former minister, Rev. Wright. No one is holding him responsible for things said or done in public. Though I may not agree with Rev. Wright, I do agree with the second amendment.

Posted by: Jim on Nov 1, 2008 at 04:49 AM
Where is Jesse Jackson in defending these two boys. According to the news reports there was not any evidence or notes that suggested racism. This is being blown way out of porportion. You all created this idea that it was racially motivated. I did not hear one person mention racism or some kind of bias with the Palin/McCain prank. This is a double standard and for anyone who does not agree; you are the racist. The people in this community as well as this country are so quick to jump to conclusions, get the facts before making ignorant statements

Posted by: fedup Location: paintsville ky on Nov 1, 2008 at 12:19 AM
GET USE TO THE DOUBLE STANDARDS and expect them to get worse if a member of the privleged class (blacks) gets elected.it will probably soon be illegal to be white...can't believe some people idolize lincoln...and as for you people who are ashamed of kentucky...california is calling...call em back. they will transfeer your check out thereand for you goofy educated ones...they will welcome you as well and as for those of us..that are proud of ky...we say the sooner you democrats leave ...the better...and for you moron democrats that think Obama is gonna give you a check....ask his brother that lives on a dollar a month about his generosity

Posted by: wondering Location: east ky on Nov 1, 2008 at 12:10 AM
i can't see why some place isn't set aside for decent people that are fed up with the direction america has gone...say alaska...and have a board of admittance to let you in or kick you out...all these special rights for certain groups and decaying morals ,makes me wish the south would have won

Posted by: Jack Location: Richmond on Nov 1, 2008 at 12:08 AM
I don't see what the big deal is. Let the boys be free.

Posted by: David Location: Paris on Oct 31, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Im going to hang an effigy of Obama in a big tree in my yard..........I wonder how this is going to turn out. We'll soon see.

Posted by: wrong Location: good for you on Oct 31, 2008 at 11:09 PM
people burn and hang bush all the time. In fact my neighboor has McCain and Palin in effigy. These kids had nothing to do with racism. This is not racism. By the way, the world is all about racism and protectionism. There is nothing wrong with racism. You don't have to like people.

Posted by: Proud Location: Kentucky on Oct 31, 2008 at 10:50 PM
WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING YET. Is this how everything will be "SOLVED?"

Posted by: Rhonda Location: Somerset on Oct 31, 2008 at 10:30 PM
I think these 2 guys probably did this because they are getting as fed up as alot of the rest of us that nothing was done to the guys in California for hanging a Palin doll and might have just wanted to prove a point. I am sure they are not the only ones that thought it was wrong and would be different it had been Obama. I am starting to think that we might actually being the ones discriminated against.

Posted by: Ed Location: Lexington on Oct 31, 2008 at 09:58 PM
One of the television stations reported that a talk show called "Savage Nation" had started a defense fund. Where do I send the money?

Posted by: Ghr Location: USA on Oct 31, 2008 at 09:27 PM
Posted by: Lynn Location: Paris on Oct 31, 2008 at 01:49 PM The difference people is the Palin effigy was place at a private home, the homeowners placed it there. Obama was placed on a college campus and the men took items from students that live there to do it. So maybe people should think before they do something so dumb. Do you mean the same college campuses where students are supposed to express themselves. The same college campuses where students are allowed to harass, shout down, and vandalize against Republican and Conservative speakers? Can't have it both ways.

Posted by: Larry Location: The Real World on Oct 31, 2008 at 08:16 PM
Nothing was really stolen. College kids go in and out of each other's rooms "borrowing" things all the time. Sometimes these "borrowed" things find their way back home and sometimes they don't. So what's the big deal? Get a life, get real.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: MAGOFFIN CO. on Oct 31, 2008 at 08:07 PM
IT'S BEEN MADE INTO A BIG DEAL BECAUSE HE'S BLACK!!!!!IF OBAMA HAD BEEN A WHITE MAN NOTHING WOULD HAVE BEEN WRONG WITH IT..

Posted by: frank Location: georgetown on Oct 31, 2008 at 07:50 PM
no if and's or but's about it, these two young men knew what they were doing and they knew it would be taken seriously. sounds like their little stunt for attention backfired on them and now they must walk the rest of their lives labled as racists. i would grow eyes in the back of my head if i were those two boys!!!!

Posted by: Chad Location: Ky. on Oct 31, 2008 at 07:22 PM
Get over it libs. Yeah this was a dumb thing to do, but no more dumb than hanging Palin in effigy. I know these guys allegedly stole some things for their display and that it was on campus but we all know that is not why everybody has got their panties in a knot. If you're white, straight or Judeo/Christian you're fair game for any sort of mockery, humiliation or abuse but God forbid anyone make any sort of statement about any other groups of people. This "outrage" is simply white guilt manifest clearly for all to see.

Posted by: steve on Oct 31, 2008 at 06:46 PM
liberals are nothing but a bunch of mad at the world whining Hypocrites.

Posted by: t Location: ky on Oct 31, 2008 at 06:41 PM
all christians get your bibles out.obama the antichrist is coming!

Posted by: me Location: lexington on Oct 31, 2008 at 06:18 PM
wake up people, hate crimes are only against "non whites". if a white person has it done to them it is "free speech". And if you do it on private property it is ok? give me a break. Both were done for the same reason. Both should have the same punishment.

Posted by: Ronnie Location: Clearfield Ky. on Oct 31, 2008 at 05:57 PM
I guess if it were two black guys that hung a white president up on Halloween no one would ever hear about it !! Blame the big deal on the " PAMPERED " Minority ... not the two inocent guys that doesnt need to spent a day in jail !!! Thank you !

Posted by: PA Woman on Oct 31, 2008 at 05:57 PM
I'm sorry, how is this any different than what was done in CA against Sarah Palin? Seems this is a double standard....not that I'm saying it is right, but if you are going to take one down, the same should apply in CA. This is a disgrace!

Posted by: t Location: ky on Oct 31, 2008 at 05:37 PM
am i a racist?i wasn't.but i'm being pushed in that direction.i'm tired of hearing excuses from blacks saying well it's because i'm black i didn't get my way.you blacks are the ones keeping racism going.how many of you so called african-americans have been to africa?can't you just be americans?

Posted by: Billy Location: London on Oct 31, 2008 at 05:28 PM
Amen DR. love it or leave it!!!

Posted by: Billy Location: London on Oct 31, 2008 at 05:21 PM
Those of you who are ashamed to live in KY I-75 goes north and south Hal Rodgers Parkway goes east and west.

Posted by: Doug Location: Taylor Mill, KY on Oct 31, 2008 at 04:12 PM
What a shame! I know Joe and have since he was a child. Joke or not, prank or not, he and his companion are adults, and they should have known better. I'm disappointed in you Joe.

Posted by: Ginny Location: KY on Oct 31, 2008 at 03:42 PM
No one was prosecuted in the Sarah Palin incident because it was on someone's private property; this happened on public property. Also, the guys were prosecuted because they stole things. Although I support the First Amendment, I think both of these acts (and others similar) were done in poor taste.

Posted by: kyle Location: eky on Oct 31, 2008 at 03:05 PM
Im not ashamed to say I live in Kentucky. These guys was just havin fun. Nobody said anything about Palin when she got hung. Thats about like all the news stations going on about thinking Obama is going to win i hope it all backfires in there faces. Nobody wants to turn on the TV and watch Obama this Obama that.

Posted by: BOB Location: ky on Oct 31, 2008 at 02:59 PM
The election results of this year will be different than any other because someone of color or a woman will hold an office never held before. Everyone wants to move forward and change our world, but when some one expresses their right to freedom of speech we take a major step back and bring in the race card. As long as people hold on to the past we will continue to have racism. This will only cause people to feel bitter on every "side" of this issue. It's STUPID! Get over it!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Scrooge Location: Lexington on Oct 31, 2008 at 02:53 PM
This is freedom of speech. Get over it. I'm sure these boys are now afraid for their lives because of a boyish prank. I feel bad for them being put in a world of such double standards and hypocrisy.

Posted by: sallie Location: ky on Oct 31, 2008 at 02:47 PM
I wonder if someone hanged an effigy of Palin/McCain on campus if they too would be charged. Something to think about????

Posted by: n.l. on Oct 31, 2008 at 02:46 PM
I agree with Kendal.

Posted by: DR on Oct 31, 2008 at 02:44 PM
I am so sick of people that live in our state saying they are ashamed to live here. If that's the case, move the heck away. It's just like the stupid people that say they are ashamed to be an America. Well, no one is forcing you to stay here, get out and move somewhere else in this world but I bet the other countries won't put up with all the whining and complaining that we do over here. People don't seem to appreciate the freedoms they enjoy here in America. They just want to impose their beliefs on the entire population.

Posted by: Sandra Location: Richmond on Oct 31, 2008 at 02:40 PM
I read several of the comments, some being totally off the mark and some close which leads me to one question "Where is the love of God?"

Posted by: Over It Location: California on Oct 31, 2008 at 02:23 PM
If two blacks at the same univ hung an effigy of Sarin Palin, you wouldn't have nver heard about it. Unless the two blacks were arrested --- then you'd have an army of liberals coming to their rescue.

Posted by: Lynn Location: Paris on Oct 31, 2008 at 01:49 PM
The difference people is the Palin effigy was place at a private home, the homeowners placed it there. Obama was placed on a college campus and the men took items from students that live there to do it. So maybe people should think before they do something so dumb.

Posted by: ls Location: salyersville on Oct 31, 2008 at 12:21 PM
Speculation.....that is what is calling all of the commotion. A Halloween prank. This is being made racist whether it was meant to or not. I think if there is anything to Obama.....it will speak up for these boys before the judicial system hangs them. And by the way, I am for Obama all the way. But things are getting way out of hand. What with the media and the upper management.....looks like are up to promoting racism.

Posted by: Bill on Oct 31, 2008 at 12:16 PM
I am proud of the way officials dealt with this incident. Even though the Palin effigy was not removed, this shows we, as Kentuckians, have taken the higher road.

Posted by: Matt on Oct 31, 2008 at 12:09 PM
This is a shameful act however I don't believe anything illegal was done here. Last time I checked, political opinion was still free and protected speech. I miss the constitution

Posted by: missy Location: frankfort on Oct 31, 2008 at 11:49 AM
It is no shock to me that there are so many racist folks in KY. Both incidents were wrong they should have never been done in the first place. For those of you who say it was a Halloween joke, prank, etc. How would you like it if your mother, father, etc was hung from a tree? You would not like that at all. If he gets elected into office, and provides some kind of tax break, stimulus check, etc, you racists would be the first to accept. Obama is for all Americans regardless of race. You all need to pray and become educated. I got news for you, this country is becoming more diversed. Some of you just cannot stand that an intelligent, biracial, educated, man wants to help the U.S and help the middle class. If any of you all can do better, why don't you all run for office? No you cannot because you do not have the skills, education, and more imporant tolerance. You all need to focus on the real issues, job losses, healthcare, etc.

Posted by: mel Location: lex on Oct 31, 2008 at 11:47 AM
I just have to say that this "Antichrist" thing is the most warped theory I've ever heard...and a little scary to know there are weirdos out there with that line of thinking

Posted by: Joyce Location: Somerset, KY on Oct 31, 2008 at 11:35 AM
The feelings expressed in many of these comments are disturbing. You want to be treated as intelligent adults, and yet you justify this horrible act as a childish "halloween prank." Grow up! Expressions of violence toward another are not acceptable, period. As far as the Palin act, the difference is that one was on personal property, while the Obama act was on public property. You can spray paint McCain/Palin across the front of your own home, but you have no right to spray paint that graffiti on your neighbor's home or on the public library down the street. Is that distinction so difficult for you supposedly intelligent college students to understand? As for Obama apologizing for the Palin "hanging," he has nothing to apologize for since he was not the one who committed that act. Just how many people have YOU apologized to for it? Heaven help us if this is what you base your vote on instead of the important issues our country faces at this time. Get informed, and vote OBAMA!

Posted by: Zatoichi Location: Richmond on Oct 31, 2008 at 11:27 AM
KYGIRL Location: LEXINGTON, Remember..Democrats have no morals. it's all good.

Posted by: Jack Location: Pike County on Oct 31, 2008 at 11:21 AM
Have to agree with Cathy, makes me ashamed to say I live in KY, and especially so that one of these idioits was a student at our best college. Makes KY and UK look bad.

Posted by: McCain Location: Arizona on Oct 31, 2008 at 11:20 AM
Burglary? They broke into a tree?

Posted by: Average Joe Location: Dallas on Oct 31, 2008 at 11:11 AM
Hmmm, how long was the Palen effigy left up? Double standards plague this election, racial bias, it makes me sick.

Posted by: Rachel Location: Eastern KY on Oct 31, 2008 at 11:00 AM
How in the heck does this make KY look awful?! They can hang Sarah Palin because they are not voting for her, but someone who is against OBAMA can't do the same because of his skin color?! This is INSANE! Come on people get real!!

Posted by: cara on Oct 31, 2008 at 10:58 AM
everyone who has left a comment downplaying this event should be ashamed. this effigy was not funny or cool, it was blatantly offensive and a deliberate act. not just some halloween prank by two college kids. the palin effigy in my mind is also offensive, and was a deliberate act as well. these kids are being punished not because of the actual effigy itself, but because they broke the law and used a public campus to send their message, whatever that may be. these kids weren't playing coy, they wanted a reaction and attention. and yes, sadly racism is still prevalent in kentucky. but let us not forget it's still prevalent EVERYWHERE. we shouldn't be disregarded as a scapegoat for racism in america. not kentucky, not "the south", not appalachia - not anywhere. i feel as if uk's reaction is justified and these kids deserve to be punished for breaking the LAW! we have the power to change racial divides, and if anything, this will hopefully open up dialogue on how to do for our future.

Posted by: K Location: Richmond on Oct 31, 2008 at 10:53 AM
If the boys broke into somewhere then yes that is a crime. But that is not why the media has had a field day out of this. It is because he was a black man. There has been very little said about anything being broken into. All that has been focused on is that the Effigy was hanging from a tree...but nothing was done in Calf about Palin and McCain...To me the one in calif is an even bigger hate crime...they were two GAY MEN doing it about a white straight man and a white STRAIGHT FEMALE...Wake up people this was also a hate crime and not a Halloween prank. If one is the other is also. Barack HUSSIEN Obama should not be our president...notice the same name as anyone else? By the way did you know he was not born in the Uninted States but in Kenya according to his grandmother from Kenya...she saw him born and has never left Kenya...whats up with that? WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: ben Location: lex on Oct 31, 2008 at 10:48 AM
One was on their own private property, and one was on a Public University, that's why there's a LEGAL difference between the two. And if you don't know the difference in hanging a black effigy and a white one.... you're either willfully ignorant to US history or you're.....a racist. These students whould be expelled and spend some time behind bars.

Posted by: Cathy Location: Eastern KEntucky on Oct 31, 2008 at 10:26 AM
This incident has made me ashamed to say I live in Kentucky. What is next? Bigots and Racism. I am disgusted and that is putting it mildly. Does the state bring back slavery now?

Posted by: Kendal Location: Lexington on Oct 31, 2008 at 10:23 AM
WOW, this case has really been exaggerated. These young men simply THOUGHT this would be a funny prank, now they possibly face federal charges. WHY? I mean it is fine to hang Sarah Palin, but God forbid there is an effigy of Obama. This truly shows the unfortunate reality race issues STILL exist today! WHY do these young men with their entire lives ahead of them face charges because they "hung" an African American man. Yet, the man who "hung" the Caucasian lady is not only NOT in trouble, he is admired by some. Honestly, this is what is WRONG with our society. Let's not make this more than what it is....two guys who OBVIOULSY did not use their best sense of judgement and did something stupid. This does not necessarily make them CRIMINALS. I say IF they MUST be punished, do so by making them serve community service hours and if everyone feels it is a race issue, place them in an African American setting. But CRIMINALS, I do not believe they fit the profile. Kudos to Lee Todd!

Posted by: t Location: lex on Oct 31, 2008 at 10:19 AM
the reason this is even worse than the mccain/palin effigy is, the stinch of racism has been attached because african americans were killed in reality, based on the color of their skin. these wounds are still somewhat fresh. this is just a grim reminder of that terrible time in american history. although all three of these acts are deplorable, only one (obama) is a reminder of that dark time in american history. so to believe they are equally offensive is not a belief backed up by history. it's sad to even be able to consider one more offensive than the others, but i'm white, asked a african american what he or she thinks about when they were made aware of this incident, then ask a white person what they thought about mccain/palin incident,the answer will be different i assure you. a time will come when we can truly,despite history, believe we are equal in the minds of all! not just a few. god bless!

Posted by: Greg Location: Winchester on Oct 31, 2008 at 10:10 AM
When Are You Black's Going To Quit Feeling So Inferior,As To Have To Have The World Feel Pity For You Every Time Some Supposed Act Of Rascism Occur's.You Say You Want To Be Treated As Equal's, Then Quit Using The Race Factor Everytime You Think It's Going To Benefit Your Kind.In Other Word's Get Over Yourselves And Quit Whining About Everthing You Percieve As Rascism.Go McCain-Palin

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 31, 2008 at 09:43 AM
I go to Class with Joe and would have NEVER thought he could do such a thing. This is awful and it makes KY look awful!

Posted by: Donna Location: KY on Oct 31, 2008 at 08:56 AM
Black African American Student: I think the point of each post has been confirmed by your post when you wrote "a man representing our race" You did not say a man representing all americans....

Posted by: Thomas Location: Lexington on Oct 31, 2008 at 08:51 AM
KUDOS TO WKYT MIRANDA COMBS! Unlike ANOTHER affiliate in town, KYT did not elect to name the fraternity and shoot video footage of the the front of the frat house when the story was breaking. This is just another example of the news leader exhibitng responsible journalism.

Posted by: v Location: 40356 on Oct 31, 2008 at 08:32 AM
Funny how the same thing was done to Sarah Palin and nothing was said or no one was arrested but now that it was done to Obama its a racial issue.. Come on wake up. It doesnt have anything to do with the color of someones skin.

Posted by: KYGIRL Location: LEXINGTON on Oct 31, 2008 at 08:29 AM
What is going on with this world? I can't believe that the FBI are thinking of getting involved in this - but nothing was or is being done about the Palin or McCain effigies. Why was the Sarah Palin effigy not viewed as sexist? Why were those allowed to stay up, with the police saying there was nothing they could do, because no laws were broken? It is ok to do this to white people, but because Obama is black - this is not ok? What is this all about - either it's ok for all or it is not. Make up your minds - this is not a color issue - this is a moral issue. What are we teaching our kids? We cannot continue with these double standards. Both of these events were wrong and should not be done - no one deserves this - color is irrelevent. Punishment should be the same for both parties. Discrimation is the same, whether it is against a black, white, purple, pink, yellow, etc. Looking past color goes more than one way - we all have to do this together.

Posted by: Connie Location: Berea on Oct 31, 2008 at 07:18 AM
Whether it be on public or private property,both displays were in bad taste.In my opinion both incidents should be treated the same. I wonder.........is this the beginning of the end?????

Posted by: jim Location: pikeville on Oct 31, 2008 at 06:52 AM
this kills me double standerds yet again from the media! I dont care if the Palin was on private property or not it was still a hate crime by two gay guys against a straight woman! So it would be ok to hang a Obama one in my front yard then?

Posted by: Wishing the election was over on Oct 31, 2008 at 05:59 AM
what is the difference, between this and the man who hung a Palin look a like in his yard in California??? These kids got arrested and that man was shown on CNN as a Hero!

Posted by: Albert B Location: Chandler on Oct 31, 2008 at 04:22 AM
I guess this means we all have have to vote for Obama to assuage our collective guilt.

Posted by: Zatoichi Location: Richmond on Oct 31, 2008 at 04:17 AM
Brian of Earth, yes there is a difference in these cases (Palin ok to hang...Obama federal crime). It's as plain as black and white.

Posted by: jennifer pfeifer Location: Florida on Oct 31, 2008 at 12:25 AM
This is so fake and so planned, they probably already have lawyer friends taking the case and we will never hear another word about this. Everybody needs to get over it and fast. There will always be some people who wont like you for what ever reason. You are not going to eliminate these thoughts by implementing more and more laws. Where is the rally of people for the hate crime against Palin, a woman hate crime; woman are the greatest victim. These guys wanted attention and maybe were even paid to do this. Listen nothing would surprise me these days when what is right is called wrong and what is "wrong" is called right! Many of us knew these days would come, as history repeats, however we can be like the people of Nineveh, return to basics: humble ourself, ask for a new chance to make things right. God said if my people who are called by my name...

Posted by: paul Location: East Ky on Oct 30, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Everyone is putting down Ky, just because it happened on the campus of UK doesn't mean these guys were from Ky! UK has students from all over the world does anyone know where they are from?

Posted by: Clair Location: Lexington on Oct 30, 2008 at 11:20 PM
The police came, cut down the dummy, notified the feds. Sarah's dummy is still hanging in California. ????

Posted by: Ernest L AGEE Location: Lexington on Oct 30, 2008 at 11:19 PM
I think it was cool and funny. the boys ware have fun just like most of the kids do in school and I do not think they should have to goto jail and mise up there lives from now on for it you libals are just to thin skined and can't take a joke with out crying get over it and go on

Posted by: Roger Location: Whitesburg,Ky. on Oct 30, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Why would they arrest these two men?The officials in Cal. said they could not arrest the people for hanging an effigy of Sarah Palin.

Posted by: marilyn Location: annville ky on Oct 30, 2008 at 11:10 PM
why cant peapole leave obama alone ,i think its awfull that we still have ,ignernce and racism .in 2008 ,i mean really ,isnt enough enough ,i dont judge peapole by their skin color or disabilaty ,besides its not our place to judge any one,and im voting obama all the way on the 4th

Posted by: Judith Location: Lexington on Oct 30, 2008 at 11:05 PM
I believe we are on the brink of a second civil war and that the biased views of the media are adding fuel to the fire of unrest,all for a "good" story.

Posted by: Billy Location: London on Oct 30, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Double standard!!! What freedom of speech?

Posted by: Debbie Location: KY on Oct 30, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Electing Obama for president will be the biggest mistake ever.Take a second and look at his backround. Do you really want someone like him to lead our country.If he becomes president everything is going change for the worse for us and the people that voted him in are going to be raising cain about it.But what can we say,you shouldnt have voted for him.He wants to do away with all firearms,how are we supposed to defends ourselves? Hunting seasons will be gone and the wildlife will overpopulate big time. He is an antichrist. Why would you want someone like him to lead you and your family? McCain is getting my vote,has been since the first presidential debate.GO MCCAIN.

Posted by: trudge Location: ashland on Oct 30, 2008 at 10:16 PM
can someone please explain the burglary and theft by unlawful taking charges?

Posted by: keith Location: georgetown, ky on Oct 30, 2008 at 10:06 PM
first and foremost the palin effigy was on private property, this was on public/private property you tell me the difference! i have a confederate flag given to me from me high school in 1986 we are the rebels a virginia high school by the way but i have too much respect for people to fly it. it's a school symbel that's it! yes i am white and i am also a desert storm vet and when the united states understands there is only one race. the human race we will overcome and we will lead the world. we are the melting pot i haven't forgot that!

Posted by: petros Location: San Francisco on Oct 30, 2008 at 10:05 PM
I wonder why the folks in West Hollywood weren't subject to the same standards. Guess the stupid kids got the short end of the stick.

Posted by: KRISTINA on Oct 30, 2008 at 09:52 PM
SO IF I DO THIS IN MY OWN YARD AM I GOING TO BE ARRESTED?

Posted by: sorry Location: betsy layne on Oct 30, 2008 at 09:43 PM
i think that everyone should lighten up,it was a halloween joke,if everyone cant see that,they are the reason this world is the way it is.if anything envolves a color person its racism,i was going to vote for obama,but now i have changed my mind because we no if anything bad should happen it would be racism.come on now,whites are the only one that can cause racism,this isnt the civil war,i have seen many of hate crimes commeted by black people,and there reason is always the same,because they were once slaves.they where never slaves,the color people that lived in that decade was,people need to get real and see what is really going on in america.more hate crimes are made by black,but nothing is ever done,because they are who they are"black".

Posted by: John Location: Kentucky on Oct 30, 2008 at 09:42 PM
This was nothing more than a Halloween prank sparked by the media coverage of a similar incident in California involving Sarah Palin. The local media and especially the university of Kentucky has blown this incident totally out of control and is calling it a racially motivated hate crime. UK is cateering to local minority groups with the primary objective of increasing the percentage of these on campus. This incident was probably not appropriate but the local "official" reaction has been totally ridiculous.

Posted by: lake girl Location: ky on Oct 30, 2008 at 09:40 PM
to anonymous i agree about obama being the anti-christ

Posted by: pikkel Location: grand rapids on Oct 30, 2008 at 09:35 PM
The spirit of ADOLF RUPP is alive and well in Lexington, KY. Nice job, racists! You are doing yourselves proud these days.

Posted by: Alice Location: Kentucky on Oct 30, 2008 at 09:26 PM
Hanging anyone in effigy is deporable. My problem is with President Todd. He missed an excellent opportunity when he quickly moved to apologize to Obama. He should have asked Obama to demand the removal of the Palin effigy in CA. Apparantly it is okay for Obama to support (Obama's silence speaks volumns) the hanging of a white woman. So tell me where is the racistism? It looks to me like the civil war will begin, oh say, November 5th. You betcha!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: lexington on Oct 30, 2008 at 09:19 PM
I don't understand why these two guys are in jail for this, but yet the two guys in Cali are in no trouble at all. A double standered if you ask me.

Posted by: McCain and Palin 08 Location: kentucky on Oct 30, 2008 at 09:18 PM
This is stupid get over it. Some people was just having fun. It's HALLOWEEN for crying out loud.

Posted by: Dave Location: Garden Springs on Oct 30, 2008 at 09:14 PM
It's only a hate crime if your skin is NOT white. If the feds want to investigate a real hate crime I have some neighbors with these white sheets hanging from trees in thier front lawn that look like klan members. I mean really if J. Edgar is going to be in town anyway why not.

Posted by: melinda Location: mount sterling on Oct 30, 2008 at 08:48 PM
STOP PLAYING THE RACE CARD AND GET A LIFE....yes, it should not have been hung up.. but who cares.? if it had been someone else{like palin} it would have been a joke, but no, everyone is blowing this up for no reason... spend some of that tax money feeding hungrey kids or buying them coats.... i don't believe this was a hate crime stop making it out to be....

Posted by: Mike Location: Harlan on Oct 30, 2008 at 08:08 PM
Fix them for not making much of the Palin incident....VOTE MCAIN......SAY NO TO SOCIALISM.....

Posted by: Donald Location: Richmond on Oct 30, 2008 at 07:53 PM
You people just don't know the law... it is freedom of speech (more appropriately, freedom of expression) if it were on private property. However, this is a public funds supported University. They can't condone acts of hate. About the Cali issue.. since when do we guage our morals by the people of California???

Posted by: Tiffany C on Oct 30, 2008 at 07:52 PM
It's unfortunate that some people are still stuck in ignorance and hate. I just hope they learn a lesson because it's not right.

Posted by: JoePlumber Location: Arkansas on Oct 30, 2008 at 07:21 PM
These boys broke into a frat house and stole items they used to make the effigy. That's why they are being charged like this. Since it was a silly college boy prank they'll end up getting their charges reduced. Hanging effigies like this isn't cool, whether the effigy represents Obama, Palin, or anyone else. There is a difference though in one that is part of Halloween decorations at your house and something you steal and hang in a public place. One is in bad taste, the other is criminal.

Posted by: Anne Location: Lexington on Oct 30, 2008 at 07:18 PM
The U of K fellows are also charged with BURGLARY. Where is the law and order crowd?

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 30, 2008 at 07:17 PM
Just testing your 2nd Amendment support.

Posted by: pat Location: nyc on Oct 30, 2008 at 07:17 PM
Double standard http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed7/idUSTRE49T8NB20081030

Posted by: Steve Location: Dallas Texas on Oct 30, 2008 at 07:17 PM
Lets hang them. Lets wipe out racism by wiping out the racist. We can start with these two idiots. Vote Obama 2008

Posted by: Brian Location: Earth on Oct 30, 2008 at 07:14 PM
People can't seem to read. There are arrests in this case on grounds of "disorderly Conduct 2nd, Burglary 2nd, and theft by unlawful taking" None of the above charges depend on race or offensiveness; you can't just walk onto the U of K and hang effigies, period. The Palin effigy, while also offensive and widely condemned, was on private property. The first amendment protects even offensive speech. These two idiots could have hung effigies on their own property without getting arrested. In doing it on university property, they broke the law. That's the difference between these two cases.

Posted by: Sad veteran Location: Mt. Sterling on Oct 30, 2008 at 07:08 PM
In this "free" country, you are not very free. Why is everything "hate". Was nobody else out there young and doing stupid things for fun. We have a black gentleman and a lady running for the most powerful positions in the world. Look at the progress we have made. There have been death threats made to every President and the world is full of BAD people. I bet that we will wake up tomorrow and something else bad will be reported on. I pray that we come together as humans someday and put an end to the bad. There will come a day where we will if we want to survive. Please pray for our leaders and each other. Freedom is easy when we agree, but hard when we don't.

Posted by: Bob Location: Alabama on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:49 PM
I knew this would happen when I saw the effigy of Sarah Palin. Both of these acts are in bad taste and should be treated as such but both should recieve equal treatment or we will have a real race problem. This may hurt Obama when people see how it is treated differently. Wake up America and stop being afraid to see what is about to happen! I Almost had decided to vote for Obama but am now starting to see that I might actually be treated poorly for being white. I guess I would feel better if 30 or 40% of blacks were voting for Mccain. I assume that over 95% of blacks will vote for Obama yet 40% or 50% of whites will vote for Obama. All I ask is who is racist now???

Posted by: Terry Location: Lexington on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:42 PM
It appears the desired result was achieved. The Governor held a press conference, the Senate Democrat Caucus issued a statement, the State House issued a statement, President Lee Todd held a press conference and a campus campaign rally was held in addition to making the national media circuit. I don't think Barak could have ask for anything more.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:38 PM
I think that it should have not been a crime to hang that up at UK campus cause it is freedom of speech and it is ther political belifs that the like mccains views more than they do obama. I would have done the same thing at my house cause i do nto like Obama's views on anything that he says he is lying to everyone anyways and the whole nation is goign to be run the same way when he is in office cause he will take advice from hiliary and bill clinton and you know what they did to the nation

Posted by: Billy Location: London on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:36 PM
If it's wrong to hang an "effigy" of Obama it's wrong to hang one of Palin. We've become so politically correct that we don't have freedom of speech anymore.

Posted by: LLP on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:29 PM
obama may be the antichrist, but if you haven't looked at the constitution lately, let me remind you there is a separation of church and state. If you are so American, you might want to remember what our country was founded on...freedom to exercise, or not exercise, any religion of your choice.

Posted by: sam Location: LEX on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:27 PM
RLE- why don't you read a bit more into freedom of speech...it is a limited right and the government has the right to limit your context, not your content. So by definition state owned property is not open to any type of "speech"at any moment in time. Before you begin to defend the ignorance of others, perhaps you should work on your own!

Posted by: FedUp Location: London on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:25 PM
First of all- for all you people who say you are ashamed of Kentucky -Why dont you move your [edited] out of this state. Why do you continue to live here? Second of all - The kowtowing of the UK president and Gov Brashear is pitiful to watch. Spineless cowards! This is only the beginning of the politically correct thought police if Obama is elected.He has already used the race card whenever it benefited him. Black people have been indoctrinated into their "victim" status. They use it as an excuse continuously. The whole idea of "hate" crimes is ridiculous. But our dear leaders want to show the other "sheep" the correct way to think & believe and "get their minds right". Too much was made of this stupid but harmless prank.

Posted by: anonymous Location: Kentucky on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:25 PM
Obviously this incident was in poor taste. Why is it only a federal offense and deserving of an apology when it's Barack Obama however, when it's Sarah Palin it's ok. The liberal media doesn't help. But I do commend you for at least showing the Sarah Palin story.

Posted by: Lettie Davis Location: Mt. Sterling, KY on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:24 PM
Hunter Bush and Joe Fischer are two of the reasons that other parts of the country call us "dumb hillbillies". I just wish those people could come here, see and understand that all Kentuckians are not like that.

Posted by: RLD Location: UK on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:23 PM
Two wrongs don't make a right. It is as simple as childhood lessons. Just because it wasn't properly handled in another location, doesn't mean we should condone the behavior here in our home state. As if having this be what KY is spotlighted on isn't bad enough, there are people trying to defend the act & brush it off as though it was the same thing as toilet papering the tree.

Posted by: sarah Location: lexington on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:25 PM
I read somewhere where a person called the perpetrators cowards for not having the guts to at least own up to their act-at least in CA they demonstrated their views on their own house. These men had no right to push their views onto the entire university and state as a whole. Don't hide behind silent acts in the night, if you want to preach your ignorant thoughts at least do it in the daylight where people can defend against them. Pathetic!

Posted by: Deborah Location: Richmond on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:23 PM
It's a Halloween college prank by kids. No big deal. I'm for Barrack all the way. We need a change!!

Posted by: mary Location: lexington on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:23 PM
Did Obama ever apologize to the white people for what those gay idiots did to Sarah Palin? NO! No one saw fit to complain about that. Blacks always talk about racism but this election has shown that they are the most racist people on earth. Most of them are voting for Obama simply because he is black. Such hipocrits. Those guys were only joking just like the ones in California.

Posted by: Roscoe Location: Lexington on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:19 PM
Of the effigy, in other words freedom of speech and expression guaranteed by the U.S.Constitution will not be tolerated at this institution of higher learning and academic freedom! If the effigy had been that of McCain, there would not have been a whimper and scant notice by the media. Interesting!

Posted by: Damon Location: Harrodsburg on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:12 PM
The staff of the university should be arrested too. They steal our money every year for there financial gains. Tuition is out of control. They want to make a point here so that the politicians will continue to send the big bucks. WHAT A JOKE. I say we turn againt the university and see what happens. This was a prank and nothing more. Have they arrested the guys in California or the man in Indiana. Nope but us KY rednecks have to make a point and show the world how "STUPID" we can be.

Posted by: Renee Location: Lexington on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:11 PM
Hmmmmmm only in Kentucky would they arrest someone for a Halloween prank and release a rapist and killer onto our streets. What a joke this state is becoming. No wonder the surrounding states make fun of people from Kentucky. These are college KIDS. Freedom of expression...remember?????

Posted by: UK observer Location: London, UK on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:09 PM
Silly. They did one of Palin recently didn't they? Here in the UK a lawyer urged Al Qaeda to kill Tony Blair, and though he could have been charged under the Terrorism Act with inciting/glorifying terror, he's still free to express his opinions verbally and on his blog. For instance he says he wouldn't assist in any crime "apart from the murder of Tony Blair". He is ignored (though personally I think he should be charged). Not a racist crime, of course, but potentially worse. But Blair is white as is the lawyer, (I understand), though he wanted another race to assassinate him. Come on. Grow up. It's about politics, that's all, of any colour. Don't dwell on your past and conflate it into this cause. More good than evil has been done in your country's name. Just don't let the 'race charge' peddlers get away with this nonsense.

Posted by: Fred Location: Lexington on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:07 PM
Is there a legal defense fund set up for these two? If not how can a person make a contribution for their defense?

Posted by: Research Location: Kentucky on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:07 PM
Lynchings were NOT only for blacks. Here are some interesting facts I found: "From 1882-1968, 4,743 lynchings occurred in the United States. Of these people that were lynched 3,446 were black. The blacks lynched accounted for 72.7% of the people lynched. Out of the 4,743 people lynched only 1,297 white people were lynched. That is only 27.3%." "Quite a few states did in fact lynch more white people than black. In the West these greater number of white lynchings was due to political reasons not racial reasons.California,Colorado,Indiana,Iowa,Kansas,Michigan,Minnesota,Montana,Nebraska,New Mexico,NorthDakota,Oklahoma,Oregon,Utah, Washington,andWyoming lynched more whites thanblacks."(http://faculty.berea.edu/browners/chesnutt/classroom/lynchingstat.html)Yes, there were more black lynchings than white, but to say it was a crime against blacks is incorrect. For the record, I think both acts against Palin & Obama are immature and hateful. God loves us all,"Red,brown,yellow,black & white."

Posted by: Smiles Location: Medina on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:06 PM
Tell Todd to stop slobbering all over himself apologizing and move on. Beshear is a democrat, what do you expect him to do. The Mayor, does anyone really care what he thinks? Half the students I have talked to on campus (black and white) consider this old news. Yo Todd, get a life!

Posted by: Kristen Location: Lexington on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:04 PM
This has turned into an issue about racism which is completely absurd. Seems like a big double standard. So it's allowed for Palin but not O'Bama. Both instances are wrong, hateful and utterly ridiculous but let's treat them the same.

Posted by: Carol Location: Lex on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:04 PM
This is in reponse to Virgil at Richmond. I am sure we will have a surprise on Wednesday morning. I can't believe we still have so much prejudice in Kentucky but I should have know there at still ignorant, stupid people that still lives here. God made us all and when we get to Heaven, God is not going to say black in one place and white in another. I hope before you die that you will ask God to change your heart. May God bless you.

Posted by: M. Graham on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:04 PM
Give it a rest.It happened and it's over. It was a prank. It just going to make things worse. Get it over it!!! Talk about something else.

Posted by: greg Location: nicholasville on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:00 PM
according to a fisk university study, from 1892- 1968 4743 people were lynched.. 1297 were WHITE, 3446 were of "different races".. yes this effigy is disgusting.. so is palins.. there is a double standard here, no doubt.. my point is its not just a "black" thing.. it worked all ways. it is deplorable at all levels, but one is no less evil than the other... '

Posted by: Kythunder on Oct 30, 2008 at 05:59 PM
I would bet that the judge who charged Bush and Fischer with a crime is a democrat and the officials that refused to charge anyone in the Palin case were also democrat.

Posted by: TRM on Oct 30, 2008 at 05:54 PM
I find both the Palin and Obama effigy of bad taste.I'm MOST outraged that the law and media are treating the two differently! All white females of America need to speak up NOW! College kids just having fun like the CA couple decorating for Halloween. Oh that's different! IT's the CA liberals for Obama! KY supports McCain and our youth pay the price! Shame on Kentucky, KY leaders and America for not treating everyone the same regardless of race, political views, etc. History also shows that women were not always treated fairly!!!

Posted by: chris Location: ky on Oct 30, 2008 at 05:52 PM
This case is getting blown out of proportion. The Sarah Palin and John McCain effigy was more or less swept under the rug. I fill that the community is only still talking about this because of Obama’s ethnic background. It apparently wasn't racial when someone hung up a country white women? To me that’s just as bad as what has happened here. Both are not acceptable and both are equally discriminatory.

Posted by: Connie Location: KY on Oct 30, 2008 at 05:52 PM
I agree with you RCC, why wasn't it a big deal when it was Palin hanging? Charlie, you're right there is no such thing as reverse racism, however, as you have point out, there is a double standard here which is why we still have racism in this country! When special groups get special treatment, there is no equality! People who scream equality do not want equality, what they want is special treatment. Many think it should be the race or gender that determines whether or not they get a job. WRONG! Women wanted in the military, once there, all physical training had to be modified for them, that's not equal treatment, that's special treatment! I was in the military & am female, but couldn't understand why I didn't have to meet the SAME standards that the men had to meet! IT'S WRONG, IT'S NOT EQUALITY, IT IS SPECIAL TREATMENT for certain people and it's this kind of thing that breeds racism! Stop giving special treatment to anyone, then racism just might die!

Posted by: stan Location: mt sterling on Oct 30, 2008 at 05:52 PM
you know. i dont know what the big deal is..if i was to go out and do the same thing of some random person. wouldn't be a thing said. when we was younger we made scarecrows nothing was said, people thought it was funny.and hung um from telephone poles. as bad as i hate to say i believe people are making it a race issue with the obama incident..come on people grow up!

Posted by: John Location: Frankfort on Oct 30, 2008 at 05:46 PM
Why would your news team ask a black person to comment on a black issue. Don't you already know the answer? Surely you do.

Posted by: Steve Location: Berea on Oct 30, 2008 at 05:44 PM
I thought Kentucky was the land of Lincoln. What has happen to our State. We need to rise to the ocasion and vote for Obama. I hope this incident wakes people up. Steve

Posted by: cindy on Oct 30, 2008 at 05:44 PM
This is no more of a hate crime than the effigy of McCain and Palin. I think too much is being made of this which will lead to hate crimes.

Posted by: "disgusted" Location: Floyd on Oct 30, 2008 at 05:41 PM
The only thing that disgusts me is that old McCains eff wasn't hung up beside him. People, when you choose between the lesser of 2 evils, you're still choosing evil. That's what they do, man. DO you want to shove thumbtacks or needles in your eye? The option never comes up that we'd rather not shove anything in our eyes. Congress just passed that $5 trillion (check Bloomberg, it's $5 Tril.) dollar bailout for the bankers, cause the bankers printed too much money and made everybody's savings worthless and everyone's dollars worth even less than they were. (%96 depreciation in 94 years, by the way) The only way we are going to get this country back on track is to cut out the Federal Reserve! It's a private bank that's owned by the Bank of England!

Posted by: Bob on Oct 30, 2008 at 05:39 PM
I'm a Democrat and Obama supporter and I think the immediate reaction should not have been what it was. What seems racial is the fuss that took place over it. Do you remember how many effigies there were of Richard Nixon back then. Especially during anti-war demonstrations. Some even burned. Or effigies of other political runners over the years. Until proven it wasn't a political statement it should have been taken as one.

Posted by: Randall on Oct 30, 2008 at 05:29 PM
Look its halloween, the kids just thought they'd do the same the homosexual couple in Kali did with the sarah palin effigey. GET OVER IT. If its ok to do it with sarah, its fine to do it with obama.

Posted by: Halyn Location: Somerset on Oct 30, 2008 at 05:26 PM
I hope they get what they deserve. Kentucky is being mocked for being racist, which we are. It's time for a change.

Posted by: anon Location: anon on Oct 30, 2008 at 05:22 PM
A big deal has been made of the Palin effigy. Have you not watched or read the news?

Posted by: jenny Location: kentucky on Oct 30, 2008 at 05:17 PM
DOUBLE STANDARD, NEED I SAY MORE?

Posted by: Louise Location: ky on Oct 30, 2008 at 05:13 PM
OMG......There is no difference between the Palin doll and the Obama doll....PLEASE "people" it's 2008, this race thing had been totally run into the ground already. Get the chip off your shoulder already.......

Posted by: UK Student on Oct 30, 2008 at 05:12 PM
What happened in both cases (hanging of Palin and Obama Statues) is a horrible thing but I do not believe in double standards.. This is absolutely ridicolous.

Posted by: allen Location: stamping ground on Oct 30, 2008 at 05:11 PM
so it's ok if it's white but if it's black or any other color it's wrong.how sad very sad that this country is going down. one it fine the other its wrong ITS WRONG BOTH WAYS POEPLE.now please say something about the doll in cal.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 30, 2008 at 04:17 PM
crazy

Posted by: RCC Location: WINCHESTER on Oct 30, 2008 at 04:16 PM
HEY ITS HALLOWEEN! ALSO ITS COLLEGE KIDS! GET A LIFE! BUT AS A AFTER THOUGHT' WHY WASN'T SUCH A BIG DEAL MADE OF PALIN?

Posted by: ben Location: lex on Oct 30, 2008 at 04:05 PM
Who says the effigy of palin was ok. No one, except the owners and FOX news who wants you brainiacs to think liberals were ok with that. I gaurentee that more Conservatives are cool with the Obama one than liberals who are cool with the Palin one. You people are in denial and that's why you're going to loose the ELection. But effigies are totally reprehensible.

Posted by: fnord Location: Lexington on Oct 30, 2008 at 03:15 PM
It may be offensive....it may not be "acceptable" and it may be redneck and ignorant........but it is legal free speech and anyone wanting to flog the students who hung this are anti-american and anti-free speech. It's that simple. I understand, in a way, UK's reaction. If UK didn't take a stand, then black people in the area would be all crazy and saying UK supports racisim (a silly notion).

Posted by: Futuristic Seven Location: Lexington Ky on Oct 30, 2008 at 03:11 PM
Ok who cares about a Sarah Palin we knoe who did her prank it was some white person but whenever u see black person hanging from a tree that is really ignorant and we know who did that, some white person so no one can't say there isn't racism about this situation because there really is and starting to get this little feeling to not like whites any more because we know ain't no black person did this kind of sick humorous stupid prank!!

Posted by: K.C. Location: Lancaster,KY on Oct 30, 2008 at 03:07 PM
I find it a two-way street when a business in Californaia can place a depiction of Sara Palin in a window with a noose around her neck and a McCain dummy with fake flames around him as if he were the devil. One may argue that this is free speech, if so, why couldnt this effigy be considered it as well. It seems that there is a double standard. The liberal media has decided on who will win this election and will stop at nothing. If you are going to report the Obama effigy, report the Palin effigy as well, give it equal air time. In the words of The Chicago Tribune, who in 1936, was so opposed to the re-election of FDR that the swithchboard operators answered the phones " Hello, Chicago Tribune only 10 days left to save our way of life,". One could argue that this may aplly now, with just five days left, no matter who wins.

Posted by: k Location: ky on Oct 30, 2008 at 03:03 PM
I can not believe they are making a huge deal out of this!! What about the McCain and Palin one in Calif? How is this different? It is not!!! Our country is in for a hard way to go if Barack Hussien Obama is elected (notice any similarities in the name with a terrioist?)

Posted by: nunya Location: lexington,ky on Oct 30, 2008 at 02:29 PM
i think that this is a clear act of terrorism. murder is never funny. hanging someone of color is not a "joke" this is serious. he may very well become our president.if America cant handle a black man in power, i'll gladly apply for citizenship somewhere else. i am white, and obama has my vote because he will do a good job as president-i dont understand how his race has anything to do with eligability. where im from (the north) people look at who is best qualified for the job, not what they look like. i believe what obama says he will do for our country. hes got alot on his shoulders as it is. regardless of the reason - hanging people is mean. happy halloween - safety first.

Posted by: Joey Bailey Location: Maryville, Tennessee on Oct 30, 2008 at 02:24 PM
I find this warped but will the liberal HORDE and their big MOUTH's rant about Palin's effigy? Both should have the Secret Service all over them.

Posted by: John Location: Monticello, KY on Oct 30, 2008 at 02:14 PM
I think this is an outrageous event in Kentucky history and I wish it never happened, but it did. Racism is wrong no matter there race. Racism occurs weather you are black,white,yellow, or red. It does not matter it happens everyday. Just because you fail to realize this does not mean it does not happen. The activity on the UK campus is unfortunate, and I am glad they took it down promptly, they should do the same thing in California with Palin's efigy. Man,woman,black,white it does not matter it is all wrong. The only difference is it is on someones property, since when did this matter? Hatred is hatred no matter what point of view you take. Don't criticize the entire state for what one ignorant person did. Not everyone in this state is like that. This is a great state, just because some ignorant individual makes a mistake does not mean we all agree with him or her. This state and country has far to do, but we are moving closer. When it comes to voting vote for issues not race.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 30, 2008 at 02:09 PM
Black bear shot in the head in Western NC with Obama signs attache, effigy in Kentucky of Obama lynching, 2 skinheads in Tennessee found planning deaths of Obama and other black folks, Sean Hannity spewing hatred from Fox News, honestly what is the acceptable limit to disqualify these types of behavior? Shall we just wait on an actual hate crime death to occur before we take these things seriously? I live in a large city of NC and let me tell ya, racism is alive and well here in NC no matter how whites fight against it. But it's also real in places like Idaho where large number of white supremist live. Only YOU and ME can take a step towards healing racial divide, no presidential candidate can heal it, no teacher can heal it, no minister can heal it, and regardless of what they might think, lol, no attorney can heal it. It comes from opening your mind and not being a product of what your parents might have taught you, your friends, or your church. WE CAN BE THE CHANGE,not politicians.

Posted by: Laura Location: Richmond on Oct 30, 2008 at 01:51 PM
Dr. Todd was right on! Dr. Todd can only be held responsible for what goes on at UK, not the rest of the country! I'm a UK employee and a white women (and yes, women are considered a protected class at UK). Rest assured that if it had been Sara Palin hanging from that tree he would have done the same thing! For those us DECENT people, stay the course and don't be discouraged by these evil, hateful acts! Continue to speak out against RACISM! and maybe, just maybe, we can gain control of our country. Its a sad day for Kentucky when CNN, just yesterday, reported this on their crawl!!!!! We are so much better than this!!!!

Posted by: Ashley Compton Location: Louisville on Oct 30, 2008 at 01:30 PM
Agentress- God forbid you be proud of where you live. If you don't like then freakin' leave.

Posted by: Jason Location: Lex on Oct 30, 2008 at 01:23 PM
Obama is white to "you idiots" so I guess that means you don't think this a hate crime. He was raised by his white mom and his white grandparents. He was more privileged than most white kids, Stop acting like Obama is the first "black" president. HE will actually be the first "really tanned" president possibly.

Posted by: John Location: LEx on Oct 30, 2008 at 01:19 PM
To "you idiots" hanging a person is hanging a person, it doesn't matter what color they are. If we lived in the 1940's i might go along with the argument that lynching is girected at black people, but come on black people have been equal to white people for the past 50years. Quit acting like discrimination is so prevalent in todays society. Go back 100years and see how you like it, and then you might appreciate how hard this country has worked toward equal rights.

Posted by: Jim Location: Lex on Oct 30, 2008 at 01:14 PM
So since it of a black man it's wrong. But the hanging white woman and a burning white man is just "bad taste" this country is ridiculous. White people are becoming the minority now, but this country should have no minorities period. Both cases of this should have been treated the exact same, but race has to be considered in this one because it's the messiah "Obama" and not an Alaskan woman "palin" or and old white man. The race card is getting so old and overused.

Posted by: Sheila Location: Georgia on Oct 30, 2008 at 01:00 PM
I am completely outraged at this happening on UK's campus. I'm orginally from KY area, and it is truly amazing how much we all still encounter racism, and foolish and distasteful acts such as this. It is an embarrassment as a US Citizen that anyone would think this would be funny regardless of who it is. This is 2008 right!! All I can say is for everyone to PRAY, PRAY, PRAY b/c at this point God is the only one to help this nation. This election is bringing out more racists people who have been in the closet and it is truly sad when you think about how far all of us have come as a nation. May God have mercy on all of us!!

Posted by: JHR Location: Lexington on Oct 30, 2008 at 12:56 PM
This is totally sick. Sometimes I absolutely hate being from Kentucky....and this is getting INTERNATIONAL coverage. All the world knows what backwards, redneck, racists people Kentuckians are ... and we are just being a self-fulfilling prophecy

Posted by: Susan Location: Winchester on Oct 30, 2008 at 12:44 PM
I hate that this has happened but why do we automatically say it was a racist act? Could it be that somebody just didn't like Obama? If it had of been McCain being hung it wouldn't of been called racist when in fact it could have very well been. The nation needs to quit referring to every crime as racist and consider the fact that sometimes people don't care for somebody based on other things.

Posted by: Kelly Location: Paris on Oct 30, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Goes to show UK will let any idiot enroll.

Posted by: Heather Location: Somerset on Oct 30, 2008 at 12:41 PM
We're living in a world full of double standards.Come on people, let's wake up and stand together!!

Posted by: Diana Location: Winchester on Oct 30, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Our governor can take the time to "over" apologize and make a big deal over Obama while the mayor of the California town where Palin and McCain are hanged and burned says it is "nothing illegal". I consider all examples in poor taste but there is certainly nothing special about Obama that makes his more insulting than the others. People are just looking for a way to paint him in a favorable light and the Republicans in a poor one. Keep trying but he is what he is and it isn't someone we need for America.

Posted by: jonathan Location: clay city on Oct 30, 2008 at 12:32 PM
i just think that this whole thing is stupid i mean come on people its 2008 not freakin 1930 anymore!

Posted by: JIM Location: FRANKFORT on Oct 30, 2008 at 12:24 PM
YOU KNOW, IF IT WERE JOHN MCCAIN THAT THEY HUNG, VERY LITTLE IF ANYTHING WOULD HAD BEEN SAID. IT DOES NOT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE IF IT WERE A DEMOCRAT OR A REPUBLICAN THAT WAS HUNG, IT WAS ALL POLITICAL. I THINK THAT THIS INCIDENT IS BLOWN COMPLETELY OUT OF PROPORTION. WE ARE TO SENSITIVE TO INCIDENTS OF THIS NATURE WHICH ENVOLVES BLACK PEOPLE. TO ME THIS WAS ONLY A POLITICAL CRANK AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN TREATED AS SUCH.

Posted by: Sally Location: KY on Oct 30, 2008 at 12:12 PM
I just read some blogs that was posted for the palin/mccain effigy in CA... they all were saying could you imagine what an uproar this would cause if Obabma had been there? IN A NOOSE?? Also said that if it had been obama ppl would get into trouble... the ppl in CA got a smack on the hand and they had the choice to take it down.... Now that the tables have turned its a whole different ball park...why some of you may ask? BECAUSE HE IS BLACK!!! GET OVER IT PEOPLE!!!! Freedom of speech is a part of this Country!

Posted by: Debbie Location: Ky on Oct 30, 2008 at 12:08 PM
THIS MAKES ME WONDER IF THIS IS WHAT OUR COLLEGE STUDENTS DO BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MUCH TIME ON THEIR HANDS- HOW ABOUT GETTING A JOB TO HELP YOUR PARENTS OUT WITH YOUR COLLEGE!!! OH I GUESS IT WOULD BE HARD TO FIND JOBS UNDER THE BUSH TIMES!!

Posted by: Eddie Location: Berea on Oct 30, 2008 at 12:08 PM
The comment by Mark from PA, "this is horrifying and just reinforces the perception that the south is full of racist, redneck, inbred white idiots." is ludicrous in light of the Sarah Palin effigy hanging. If we use his reasoning then we could rightly say, "this Tthe Sarah Palin effigy) is horrifying and just reinforces the perception that California is full of intolerant, liberal, homosexual idiots." Sauce for the goose Marky. Live with it. It was also unsettling to read Corey's comments. This is not terrorism. It is stupidity, but you can't fix that. To paraphrase Corey, "Grow up and come to reality stuppid people where put here by God too, and history will tell us they are not going anywhere." Live with it and quit acting like a victim. Overcome it and be a victor.

Posted by: donnie Location: clay city on Oct 30, 2008 at 12:06 PM
african american why do they say that why not american is that not where they were born but if we were all american they could not camplain about race hate crimes and things obama likes to cry about vote mccain

Posted by: TC Location: Hazard on Oct 30, 2008 at 12:01 PM
What a waist of time and government money. Let's have a forum to talk about how this makes us feel.. Bo-Ho Someone hung an effigy. Correct me if I am wrong but aren't we in America and wouldn't this fall under free speech? I think Americans need to grow some nads and get some thicker skin. Now that Lee Todd is on the case we will get to the bottom of this and expel this kind of student. What is his kind of student? Oh don't forget the letter to Obama, we don't want to offend anyone. "Dear Mr. Obama - Here in hickville one of our students hung an effigy of you or at least we think its you. The paper mache face looked a lot like you and we think they got your hair right. I am not sure if you would wear the suit they had on this dummy. We will send a picture. Please let us know if this you. I have asked the governor to send in the KBI because we want make sure we catch this offender quickly while wasting as much of our government dollars as possible." GET A LIFE PEOPLE

Posted by: sickandtired Location: ky on Oct 30, 2008 at 11:45 AM
Not every one of us feel that the effigy of Sarah Palin was okay. Just because a few people think it was funny, that does not mean it represents my views. I believe that everyone has a right to their own political views. I don't judge people for what they believe in, but how can you condone either one of these disturbing acts. I am so tired of all the political jargon and actions that people are taking. This should be an exciting time, history in the making, but all it has turned out to be is a bashing of liberals and conservatives. I cannot wait for this election to be over and maybe the pettiness will end.

Posted by: Rene Location: Williamsburg on Oct 30, 2008 at 11:40 AM
Just another fine example of what the world will be like if Obama wins president this year. Whites will constantly have to be apologizing for their 'racial' remarks. Give me a break. It was a joke. This just goes to show that we don't need a crybaby in the White House. Sarah Palin is the bigger person here because she didn't throw a hissy over her effigy.

Posted by: Marilyn Location: Liberty on Oct 30, 2008 at 11:02 AM
I do find the effigy offensive; but I also felt what they did to Sarah Palin in Calif. was just as offensive. As of it no one has said they were sorry to Sarah-it was treated as a joke. It seems to be a big difference is being made between Obama and Sarah Palin. What makes it wrong when it is of Obama and a joke when it is Saarh Palin? I think both are terrible. Where is the justice??

Posted by: anonymous Location: lexington on Oct 30, 2008 at 10:27 AM
Whoever did this may or may not be racist and it may or may not have been a joke, but it makes Kentucky look very bad. As if we don't have enough stereotypes?! Everyone in kentucky is not racist and a southern hick but whoever did this sure is making it look that way. I take offense to that and whether I like Obama or not (which I actually do not) I don't appreciate you meking ME look bad simply because I licve in Kentucky. Make yourself look like a southern racist idiot but not me and everyone in my state!

Posted by: ky girl Location: ky on Oct 30, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Racist hum.. let me see, well that can and does go both ways. but it appears the black community is becoming more racist then ever its like they want to hold us responsible for the past and we cannot help what our fore fathers did, and we do not owe them if they want to be treated equal then why do we have black history month?? or black college fund?? there is not a white history month or white college fund. this is only one example of how the racism is going the other way. I have friends which are colored and are fine people but some of the few who cannot forget the past push to keep making a huge deal out of it. Like I say we have good and bad in all races! We need to quit living in the past and learn to get along together. Hanging one dummy or another should be no different. if one is punished the other should be and vice versa!! GROW UP!!

Posted by: anonynous Location: carlisle on Oct 30, 2008 at 10:25 AM
what is good for the goose is good for the gander .so just wait when hussine obama get in the whites won't be allowed to open our mouth.so i think its was funny would like to have had a picture of him.

Posted by: wouldnt-U-like-2-know Location: LEX-VEGAS on Oct 30, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Ok, this is a message to all you IGNORANT people who continue to commit on the subject. Sarah Palin's effigy was disgusting as well. But...BUT!!!! That was on private property, reflecting the ignorance of an individual and not on a college campus which reflects the thoughts of thousands. To even think people still act or think like this is disgusting. Every year it is something on this campus and all people can say is "Well, it is Freedom of Speech" That SORRY excuse is getting tired and old. Those few IGNORANT, PATHETIC and SAD people who did that are not a representation of this campus or community. I am a PROUD graduate and employee of the University of Kentucky and this will not taint that. UK is a GREAT institution and it is really unfortunate that this continues to be overshadowed by stupidity. I hope they do get caught and kicked out of school because this is so unacceptable. Obama, Palin, Biden or McCain...this should have NEVER happened.

Posted by: me Location: corbin on Oct 30, 2008 at 10:07 AM
would there have been as much stink if it had been McCain?

Posted by: Kristin Location: Louisville on Oct 30, 2008 at 10:02 AM
When a person in California did the same thing to a "Sarah Palin" mannequin, everyone said oh this is no big deal; it's halloween so it's fair game; it's freedom of speach. Where was the outrage then?

Posted by: jean Location: lancaster on Oct 30, 2008 at 09:59 AM
The over all view of the comments made regarding the effigy on UK's campus makes it clear that Kentucky still has deep race issues. Wasn't some type of "noose" found nearby earlier in the year. The comments about Sen. Obama associating with terrorists is not true, but hasn't Pres. Bush said he will start talking to the Taliban,(aren't these the terrorists responsible for 911)? I believe the Bush family has financial ties to Arab oil, isn't that why our soldiers are in Iraq? Califorina and Kentucky are 2 different states, with I'm sure different laws/views on these incidents. To me the incidents of hanging or burning goes beyond a "joke" regardless of who it is about or where it has occurred!!!!!!

Posted by: Nolan Location: Lexington on Oct 30, 2008 at 09:49 AM
Does the term double standard mean anything to anyone??? An effigy of Sarah Palin was hanging from a house in Southern California along with an effigy of John McCain burning on fire out of a Chimney. The secret service deemed the Sarah Palin and John McCain effigies did not violate freedom of speech laws. Now how can this be? DOUBLE STANDARD! The Obama effigy was removed promptly. Can someone tell me why all of the national media and the apologies? It’s Halloween! People hang things from their trees to scare children! Civil War? God no, the CIVIL WAR is over! Everybody just needs to realize it, especially those out there who still throw the race card. In this country African Americans have more rights than everyone else because of double standards. Why doesn’t someone comment on that?

Posted by: Barry Location: Owenton on Oct 30, 2008 at 09:31 AM
This just shows the difference between black and white. It is outrageous to hang a effigy of Obama (and it is) but how many of you have just laughed at the California display of Sarah Palin hanging all week. Grow up and quit play the race card. We need to forget color and try to be Americans.

Posted by: denny Location: lagrange on Oct 30, 2008 at 09:13 AM
Welcome to the beginning of the second Civil War. Those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat it, not my quote, but I study history.

Posted by: Pam Location: Lexington on Oct 30, 2008 at 09:13 AM
I find it hard to believe that in the year 2008 we still have undeniably ignorant people who think that hanging "ANYONE" in effigy is acceptable behavior. While I find the Obama effigy particularly disturbing and reprehensible - I find it odd that the effigy in California of Sarah Palin at someones home was just "in bad taste."

Posted by: Lisa Location: Central KY on Oct 30, 2008 at 08:52 AM
A sick idea of humor is a sick idea of humor! Hate comes into play when we are allowed to remain ignorant. I do not care about whose skin tone was portrayed because both incidents make me worry about our society!

Posted by: charlie Location: Lexington on Oct 30, 2008 at 08:48 AM
Two sets of standards. Hate crime for one not for the other. I was armed robbed by a black man in Memphis, Tn. in 1996. I was forced into a motel room while he took my property. During the 5 min. while he held me under gunpoint he kept threatning me and each statement was you white @#*. When the police arrived and took the report I asked them if this was a hate crime. No it wasn't but if the roles were reversed and I had made the same statements it very well could have been considered a hate crime. The investigating officers were both black and saw my point.

Posted by: Jeb Location: Ky on Oct 30, 2008 at 08:42 AM
First off to MARTIN Location: MISSOULA - There is no such thing as "reverse racism." Racism is racism. Secondly, the effigy of Palin has been taken down by the gay couple (males) in California after a "heart to heart" talk with their Mayor and concerned citizens. The display of McCain peeking out of a flaming chimney is still being displayed. My question: if two gay males display something like they did about a straight female (Palin) and a straight male (McCain), isn't that considered a hate crime? If a straight person did the same to a gay person it is always considered a hate crime. Also, all involved are politicians trying to get in the White House so why aren't they all treated equally? Isn't equality one of the things this country has been trying to achieve for a long time? Double standards is what we have here; not reverse racism (which I already pointed out, does not exist).

Posted by: RLE Location: Lexington on Oct 30, 2008 at 08:40 AM
If the gay couple hung an effigy of Sarah Palin because they do not like her religious beliefs, then wouldn't that be a hate crime as well? Apparently there is only "Freedom of Speech" for a small group of Americans and the rest of us are considered bigots, racists, etc.

Posted by: Gale Location: KY on Oct 30, 2008 at 08:19 AM
Oh come on now--If it had been McCain or Palin --nothing would have been said. Let's face it--Because Obama is Black- there is a big stint--Waste of time and money. Obama if elected better get used to it. To me It's Freedom of Speech!

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 30, 2008 at 08:14 AM
Double Standard!

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 30, 2008 at 07:53 AM
goes to show theres ignorance in colleges too.

Posted by: Al Location: Vanceburg, KY on Oct 30, 2008 at 07:05 AM
Just a thought. Because this atrocious act happened on the UK Campus most folk seem to think a student is responsible. Maybe not. So a discussion about race relations with the students may not help that much other than reinforcing previously held convictions. Perhaps such a discussion could be held with a community wide emphasis and open to the general public. Someone off campus, a non-student, may have committed this act. Is the KKK or any white supremacy group in Fayette County?

Posted by: Jeb Location: KY on Oct 30, 2008 at 07:05 AM
Seems to be an overwhelming majority of people who feel the same. Double Standards DO exist!

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 30, 2008 at 07:01 AM
What happened at UK was wrong and what happened in California was wrong as well. There is a bit of a difference because Senator Obama is of color and we were partially a southern state during slavery and the civil rights movement. This is something that will bring up a racial issue no matter what you try to do or say to make it better. And, yes we have freedom of speech but if someone thinks of this crime or the one against Sara Palin because she opposes gay marriage as freedom of speech it is sad. Reason being, you should be able to express your opinion in other ways than that. If you cant express your opinion in another way (liek protesting)then you shouldn't express your opinion. Bottom line is, America has a long road ahead of us no matter who are president might be. And you really shouldn't worry about the president you should worry about if you are electing McConnell or Lunsford.

Posted by: Heather Location: Somerset on Oct 30, 2008 at 06:22 AM
What about the Palin display in California? It is ok for them to leave that horrible Halloween decoration up. I dont understand how that can be any different. I am ashamed of the society we live in.

Posted by: Virgil Location: richmond on Oct 30, 2008 at 03:47 AM
I think there will be a whole lot of you surprised at the polls tuesday night because the media has done a wonderful job in trying to make it look like Obama is simply going to win with a landslide. I say this because People get up in arms when a smear is done too Obama but when its McCain or Palin it is laughed at and passed on as nothing that needs to be taken seriously. The Media is the most guilty of this and the Media has done nothing more than orchestrated the pass of ACORN's continuous proof that they are Voter Fraud for the Democrats. Now when you go to the Polls and you vote behind closed curtains I am willing to say that more people will vote for McCain because they don't want the guilt of voting in an extreme liberal who has a history of associations with terrorists reguardless of policy agreeements. Also they don't want the guilt of knowing they helped elect someone who will single handedly cause the biggest economic collapse in U.S. History. Obama=Socialism PERIOD!!!!!

Posted by: Tina Location: Ky on Oct 30, 2008 at 03:10 AM
Such acts like this saddens my heart. I think Hallowen should be banned it is only teaching our young children it is ok to do such acts... Halloween prank or not things like this should NEVER be allowed..May God Bless you all...

Posted by: Big Bill Location: Detroit on Oct 30, 2008 at 03:02 AM
Hey it is ok for the Palin doll hanging in CA still as we speak and this is a big deal? That's bull

Posted by: Eric Location: Liberty on Oct 30, 2008 at 02:35 AM
this has nothing to do with race,,its a political statement because of the Palin "effigy" in California,it's a college,,they do pranks, nothing to be all upset about

Posted by: You Idiots Location: Lex on Oct 30, 2008 at 02:23 AM
The Palin thing was on someone's private property. The Obama thing was on a public campus. Plus it's not like lynching is a symbol of hatred towards whites. I wish someone would tell me what is the root of their racist thoughts. I can't imagine.

Posted by: KY Girl Location: Lexington on Oct 30, 2008 at 01:40 AM
I agree with all the comments actually but would also like to add that UK 'should' have looked at this as what I believe it was intended as: A Halloween joke..nothing more, nothing less. Sure the president race gave them a nice twist to the joke but it was a JOKE! People should try to stop this thin skinned attitudes and lighten up some! Where are our senses of humor for goodness sake. As everyone has pointed out, the same thing has been to Gov. Palin and nobody batted an eye much less involve the FBI. UK 'assuming' this was a racial act disgusts me to tell you the truth, it appears anytime anything is said or done and it doesn't involve a Caucasian put down of some kind, then it is racial based. Get off of this attitude people. SNL trashes Palin every single week and everyone thinks that is humorous but a few students push the envelope a little bit and Lexington has a meltdown. Get a grip people!

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 30, 2008 at 01:29 AM
I THINK OBOMA IS THE ANTI CHRIST DONT VOTE FOR HIM

Posted by: Corey Location: Lexington on Oct 30, 2008 at 01:11 AM
The Palin effigy was on a garage at a house that was decorated for holloween. This effigy was hung in a tree on a college campus. There is a difference not to mention the fact that a recent threat was made on this mans life by a white supremacist group. If you think this type of behavior will be tolerated you sadly mistaken my friend, this is nothing short of terrorism. Grow up and come to reality black people where put here by God too, and history will tell you we are not going anywhere.

Posted by: Cassie Location: Kentucky on Oct 30, 2008 at 01:04 AM
I doubt that this has anything to do with racism directed towards the black community. This is a representation of someone's total disgust with this canidate. If it is in any way a racial statement it is in protest of his Muslim beliefs. I commend this person. That's funny stuff. How could America possibly be stupid enough to support a Muslim Socialist with hopes to run our country?

Posted by: DB on Oct 30, 2008 at 12:20 AM
who cares, it just sounds like a prank to me. If it was someone else would it be a big deal.

Posted by: Mark Location: PA on Oct 30, 2008 at 12:12 AM
After the Souths history of lynching blacks, this is horrifying and just reinforces the perception that the south is full of racist, redneck, inbred white idiots.

Posted by: fnord Location: Lexington on Oct 29, 2008 at 11:52 PM
wow...massive overreaction and a waste of tax dollars to investigate it. I don't care which politician it was of...or if it was just of no one....this isn't important. It's almost kinda funny

Posted by: ichabod Location: richmond on Oct 29, 2008 at 11:49 PM
given that the majority of "hate crimes" on college campuses end up being hoaxes and set-ups, it wouldn't surprise me at all to learn this was committed by a race-baiting lunatic Obamaton. but hey, everything's going to be ok folks - the brain trusts at UK are going to have a meeting and 'raise race awareness', ok? We can all sleep well tonight. They're on the case, and I for one feel immense relief! (yes, that was sarcasm).

Posted by: double_j Location: Southern Ohio on Oct 29, 2008 at 11:33 PM
I guess when the "noose" is on the other neck the story's different. It's OK to hang a representation of a woman VP candidate, it's ok in '04 to write plays and books on how to kill the president, it's ok as long as it is at the GOP candidate. But BY GOD you better not say or do anything toward the LEFT. BEWARE in deed of those democrats. Guess Orwell was right. We all better learn "new speak" and watch out for the thought police once the "annointed one" takes office.

Posted by: Concerned African American Student Location: UK on Oct 29, 2008 at 11:25 PM
First and foremost Barack Obama is not Arab! His father is African. Secondly this is an abomination! Is there anyone on here that is actually an African American student on this campus? Because I am. You cannot talk about this not being racist on this campus! UK STILL DEALS WITH RACISM! I have been subject to it as well as my friends and we have been on this campus 3 months. Sarah Palin's effigy was on private property. This is on a racist campus! There is definitely a difference. Things that take place on this campus should be taken serious. Regardless if it was a college campus or a elementary campus. Senator Obama's life is at stake everyday! If we dismiss this, and something happens what is next?! There have been speculations of Obama's assassination already! Like some of these comments are foolery!

Posted by: Jack Morrison Location: Worthington< Kentuckyy on Oct 29, 2008 at 11:17 PM
I think the effigy of Obama is totally unacceptable. I understand that this is considered a hate crime. If so, how is the effigy of Sarah Palin not a hate crime. Obama, Biden, McCain and Palin are all politicians - race is not a onsideration. How is the effigy of Sarah Palin considered an expression of art and not a hate crime. Is it going to be OK to hang women during an Obama administration? I hope not.

Posted by: UK Black Student on Oct 29, 2008 at 11:16 PM
For one-- i'm a black student. I'm on this campus and I had to look at the effigy of a man that was representing my race in the upcoming presidential election. The Palin effigy is uncalled for and should be taking down but the fact that her "figure" is on someones property seperates the situation from the one that was present on this campus. Students all over the world are present on this campus and it was very offensive and it greatly affected the student body as a while. This wasn't an act of "double standard", it was just flat out wrong. Before you comment on the actions that are taking place on this campus, COME UP HERE AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE. goodday.

Posted by: Mother Location: Richmond on Oct 29, 2008 at 11:15 PM
I am embarrassed that I live in such an ignorant state. Black men were hanged for years and it is a HATE crime to pull a stupid stunt like this. If you are reading this then you should be ashamed of yourself and I feel sorry for you if this is the way you were raised. Ignorance is a learned behavior. I pray that God takes the hatred out of your heart. I am truly ashamed to say that I was born and raised in the same state as someone that could be this cruel. If you walked a day in the shoes of a minority then you would know why this is not funny and is not a harmless Halloween prank.

Posted by: jenni on Oct 29, 2008 at 11:10 PM
STOP APPOLIGIZING IT WAS MEANT FOR A JOKE, THIS IS THE KIND OF REACTION WE'LL GET TO EVERYTHING IF OBAMA IS ELECTED PRESIDENT. OF COURSE WITH HIM ITS RACIAL BUT WHEN IT HAPPENED TO SARAH PALIN IT WAS FUNNY, EVEN ALLOWED TO STAY UP.

Posted by: Damon Location: H-Burg on Oct 29, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Why is everyone saying Im sorry. You didnt do it so stop it. Are we going to send police and our sorrows to california and tell Palin McCain that we are sorry also.

Posted by: Anne Location: Central KY on Oct 29, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Not right, but if taken as "decoration" in California, then it should be "decoration" in Kentucky!!!

Posted by: Drew Location: Lexington on Oct 29, 2008 at 10:56 PM
After reading the responses by previous people, it is no wonder people outside of KY think we're a bunch of ignorant, inbred, rednecks. If I didn't know otherwise, I would think that's who we are as well. Apparently, none of you know or understand the history behind lynchings and hate crimes in the South, including our fair state. The situation regarding Palin is very disturbing and there is a double-standard but that's on California - not us. Do you really want to be on the same level as Cali?! How any of you can claim an effigy of Obama being strung up on a tree is a "joke" or "harmless" is beyond anyone with decency or reason. I am deeply disappointed to be a Kentuckian not because of the action, but because of the ignorance spewed on this comment board.

Posted by: Harmony Location: morehead, ky on Oct 29, 2008 at 10:21 PM
nobody should have hung a palin effigy or a obama effigy. even though palin is a complete idiot and OBAMA rocks! Barack my world!!!the difference is palins was in L.A. and they didt do anything but it happend on private property and nobody can do anything, besides, palin or mccain doesnt have anybody plotting to kill them but obama does! And it was on a campus. Obama ISSSS our next president! Go Obama!!!

Posted by: curious Location: southeast on Oct 29, 2008 at 10:11 PM
did they put lipstick on him?

Posted by: Debbie Location: Ky on Oct 29, 2008 at 10:09 PM
It is bad for someone to do something like that.All I can say is MCCAIN For PRESIDENT.

Posted by: Colette Location: West Liberty, KY on Oct 29, 2008 at 10:05 PM
I think the Obama effigy is disgusting and appalling, just like the one of Sarah Palin that was done in California. In California, the Secret Service, West Hollywood Code Enforcement, and Los Angeles County Sheriff's Dept. stated "It is not in violation of any city, state or federal laws." I don't think this should be treated any different than Sarah Palin just because it was an effigy of Barack Obama. Both of these acts should be punished; if it is considered a "hate" crime, then it should be hatred of Republican and Democrat, not white or black.

Posted by: Carey Location: Richmond on Oct 29, 2008 at 10:01 PM
We don't live in California and have no control over it. That was disgusting too. I don't care who it is. Of course some of you, don't understand how degrading this is. It wasn't that long ago, that African Americans were hung for befriending white people. Grow up folks. This isn't about a democrat or republican. This is about human decency. There's nothing funny about either situation. Stop pointing fingers at republicans vs democrats. There are children in that area and everyone should be respected point blank.

Posted by: Jack Location: London on Oct 29, 2008 at 09:58 PM
Did anyone see or hear Barrack Obama say anything about the effigy of Sarah Palin in CA?? No, because it tells you about the REAL Barrack Obama. You think any of your freedoms were take away by the BUsh administration, you ain't seen nothing yet. THis is showing what a double standard we have in America. I notice that most of the postings here, see it the same as I do.

Posted by: thelma Location: lancaster on Oct 29, 2008 at 09:51 PM
whats the big deal PALIN'S still hanging.it's time for the people to stand up 4 themselves. think before you vote.

Posted by: molly Location: california on Oct 29, 2008 at 09:49 PM
both this and the Palin one are insanely stupid. However, I can see the Obama one as being a hate crime because it terrifies a whole class of people (blacks), whereas the Palin one is a hate-statement of just Palin.

Posted by: Jimmy Location: Lexington on Oct 29, 2008 at 09:32 PM
I think the University is making more of this than it might be. Remember we dont know why this was done, but we all have assumptions. If this was a white democratic figure would the University come together and have a big forum? Remember last year when the van came through lexington with all the babys that had been killed by abortions...why wasnt a good topic for a forum? I dont have the history or background that some blacks have and the symbol of the rope and a black man hanging, but remember we dont know the whole story..a lot of us are assuming this is a race issue. It was not the nice thing to do, and if the media didnt put it on 3 itmes a day the people that did it would have no glory.

Posted by: Nancy Location: Lexington on Oct 29, 2008 at 09:30 PM
It's disgusting to hang an effigy of anyone not matter the gender, race, or religion and very sad to see people think it's okay. What has happened to following the Golden Rule? For black people, hangings are a painful reminder of how shamefully they were treated in their own country. Nothing is hilarious about this and shows complete lack of sensitivity for both Palin and Obama. It's immature to think that somebody being depicted hanging would not bother them. Some of the attitudes just show the Me, Me, Me and not thinking of anyone else. Where is your common sense and compassion.

Posted by: gary Location: richmond on Oct 29, 2008 at 09:29 PM
We have three dummies hanging in front of the madison co. court house, think we need to call the federal investagators about them ? Our county officals have hung them up there for the last two or three years. Maybe they to to be locked up too! GET REAL PEOPLE IT'S HALLOWEEN.

Posted by: Agentress of change on Oct 29, 2008 at 09:19 PM
Amen Donald in Richmond. I have taken it as a sincere and kind compliment when meeting people who comment that I don't talk or look like I am from Kentucky. Thank God the majority of the rest of the country is of higher understanding and intellect because I look the them and God to allow us to welcome Obama as our new president.

Posted by: jd Location: nebraska on Oct 29, 2008 at 09:14 PM
true its not that huge of a deal. but anyone who takes the time to do this, deserves someone to take the time to sit them down, put a cig out in their forehead, and ask them what the [edited] is the matter with them.

Posted by: w boy on Oct 29, 2008 at 08:42 PM
A GOOD PLACE FOR HIM

Posted by: B Location: Lexington on Oct 29, 2008 at 08:30 PM
Wow, all of these comments below me just show how the majority of the people in Kentucky think. If you don't think this is a serious matter then obviously you are blind and you are probably one those people think racism isn't alive in the U.S. today either.

Posted by: ky.wildcat.gal Location: London on Oct 29, 2008 at 08:14 PM
Todd was in the right for having it removed as soon as possible. The Palin ones should have been removed also. Both are disgusting and very offensive. Some people just need something better to do with their spare time.

Posted by: Renkin2688 Location: Ft. Worth, TX on Oct 29, 2008 at 07:44 PM
You have got to be F'ing kidding me. Until the one of Sarah becomes important enough to make such a big stink out of, I DGAF about this one.

Posted by: Mitch2 Location: Frankfort on Oct 29, 2008 at 07:31 PM
I sent a comment on the Obama effigy; where is it? I also tried to find an e-mail address (to no avail) for Dr. Todd Lee; where is it?

Posted by: Matt Location: ky on Oct 29, 2008 at 07:31 PM
I can't believe all the racist morons around here. You all just confirm to the rest of the nation what redneck, ignorant, racist fools live here. No wonder people look down on us. It is embarassing.

Posted by: steve on Oct 29, 2008 at 07:31 PM
Man this is a campus people they knew this would get a rise probably a mad liberal done this because Obama is going to lose the state.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 29, 2008 at 07:19 PM
This is a top research university.

Posted by: PM Location: Winchester on Oct 29, 2008 at 07:17 PM
Are the rules different for KY than for CA.....or is it that BO is black which now translates to off limits while Palin is white and fair game???

Posted by: Ralph Location: Covington on Oct 29, 2008 at 07:15 PM
Hey, it's just art or a Halloween prank. Isn't that what the two guys in West Hollywood said about their Sarah Palin effigy? Don't worry, when the Obamessiah, Lord High Priestess Pelosi, and Grand Potentate Reid have the controls of power kids that do this kind of stuff will disappear into the re-education camps.

Posted by: James Location: California on Oct 29, 2008 at 07:09 PM
Way to teach your children tolerance Kentucky. The south needs to figure out how to rid itself of its hate stereotype.

Posted by: Bob Location: Lexington on Oct 29, 2008 at 07:05 PM
This morning an effigy of Gov Sarah Palin was hung in CA. One of Sen McCain appears to be burning in the chimney. Only a few differences. 1. It was of Obama 2. the FBI and Secret Service have been here all day investigating this as a "hate crime" 3. Everyone is in an outrage 4. All of the media is covering it, without a mere mention of the California story. The CA story has been declared a "tasteless Halloween prank." Man o man..what a difference a shade of skin makes.

Posted by: Paul Location: Lex on Oct 29, 2008 at 07:01 PM
Hanging an effigy of anything is a disgrace. Cut the right wing, left wing BS, but realize this isn't a crime.. Yes free speech, but in very bad taste. Buncha dumba** kids cracking up now cause they made the news... keep watching more to follow....Film at 11 ?!!!

Posted by: jan Location: pineville KY on Oct 29, 2008 at 06:58 PM
why is it that they can do the same thing in California to sarah palins effigy and they find it to be a joke with no arrests, and here in KY someone does it to Obama and Like OMG it's offal. What has our Nation come to?

Posted by: willie on Oct 29, 2008 at 06:56 PM
I think this is hilarious and the fact that Todd said he was going to get the Feds involved is plain out stupid. It is just some college student haveing a little fun. Double Standard! When it involved McCain and Palin it was reported as a Halloween decoration. TYPICAL!

Posted by: Legal Type Location: Lexington on Oct 29, 2008 at 06:52 PM
The difference in the Palin dummy hanging in California and this one are perfectly clear. The Palin one is hanging on private property by the owners of the property. The Obama one was hung in a public place on the property of UK. Because it was done in a public place on someone else's property, then it becomes disorderly conduct. The Secret Service must investigate cases such as this one to determine if it is a threat. Each case is handled differently because you must determine the intent of the person making the display. That's the difference for those of you too blind to see it or too stupid to understand it.

Posted by: Mick Location: Nicholasville on Oct 29, 2008 at 06:47 PM
Our esteemed Governor stated this is hate. Well Stevie, as others have pointed out, the Federal government stated that the effigy of Gov Palin is NOT a hate crime. The difference is this is on State property, vs private property. The only crime here would be defacing public property. Again, our dear Governor has opened his mouth and embarassed the Commonwealth.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 29, 2008 at 06:46 PM
first of all, the feds are investigating the Palin effigy, so yes, it is a big deal. it was a stupid, offensive display. however, a noose has a different meaning for african-americans and if you don't understand that you need a history lesson.

Posted by: Chris Location: Lexington on Oct 29, 2008 at 06:46 PM
I say leave it up until the one of Palin is taken down. And im sure this isn't the only effigy of Obama in America hanging up.

Posted by: Bacrock Location: Oblahma on Oct 29, 2008 at 06:41 PM
Here is a thought.... What if this was the doing of an Oblahma supporter, in an attempt to cause a racial stir just before the election?? Nobody wants to be associated with racism, so you better vote Oblahma so you don't appear to be racist! The Oblahma camp has been playing the race card since day 1, when he was running in the Democratic primary, and I for one am tired of it! Remember kids... by voting for a democrat you are supporting the agendas of radical Islam, homosexual marriage, repealing the second amendment, Atheism and a godless society, and Karl Marx's socialistic views. Have a nice day :-)

Posted by: Cap'n Location: Carlisle on Oct 29, 2008 at 06:38 PM
Oh, come on. People laughed when it was Sarah Palin hanging and now there's outrage over Obama? Man, racism is treating people differently because of the color of their skin. So, isn't it racist to be outraged when it's Obama's effigy hanging from a tree but not when it's Palin's? Yep.

Posted by: Jeff Location: London, KY on Oct 29, 2008 at 06:33 PM
The effigy of Obama found in Lexington is deplorable-so is the one of Governor Palin found in California recently that you failed to mention in tonight's story.

Posted by: briscoe Location: harlan on Oct 29, 2008 at 06:28 PM
to jojo in lex, i have no idea what an aeffigy is. and to bill in atlanta,thats how i feel. you da man bro.

Posted by: thelma Location: ky. on Oct 29, 2008 at 06:27 PM
this should tell the voters something .palin is still hanging. speak up for yourselves when you go to vote. whats ok for one should be ok for you. so stand up for your rights.....

Posted by: Paul Location: Lexington on Oct 29, 2008 at 06:26 PM
It is Halloween for gosh sakes.Let's spend tax payers money to investigate and spend week's looking for a scape goat.Get off your cross, buld a bridge and get over it.

Posted by: Murray Location: Lexington on Oct 29, 2008 at 06:25 PM
I would not be surprised to learn that this stupid effigy was accomplished by Obama supporters in an attempt to sway undecided voters to vote for Obama in order to "prove" that they are "above" such an act of racism. The effigy hanger(s) may be "dumb like a fox".

Posted by: Eastern Ky Location: Eastern Ky! on Oct 29, 2008 at 06:24 PM
I am a DEMOCRAT & I am 100% for Obama! I do NOT agree with "effigy's" of EITHER candidate, whether it is REPUBLICAN or DEMOCRAT! It shows extremely bad taste, extremely (in my opinion) ANTI-AMERICAN, and extremely low IQ! Vote and express your views for what YOU believe in and NOT on RACE or GENDER! WAKE UP AMERICA, IT IS 2008!

Posted by: toby Location: iy on Oct 29, 2008 at 06:22 PM
ky is red neck what do you expect

Posted by: jenni Location: anon on Oct 29, 2008 at 06:01 PM
WHAT ABOUT THE EFFIGY IF SARAH PALIN AT THAT HOUSE IN CALIFORNIA. FUNNY THAT FEDERAL AUTHORITIES WERN'T CALLED TO INVESTIGATE THAT. THIS IS BEYOND SAD!!!!

Posted by: Had Location: Detroit on Oct 29, 2008 at 05:59 PM
It's the haters who should hang. But don't worry, God has a long memory. As ye judge, so shall ye be judged. Hope you rednecks like hellfire.

Posted by: Ian Location: Chicago on Oct 29, 2008 at 05:49 PM
I dont think you can ever blow racism out of proportion. Not funny at all really. People were string up and killed as recently as 1980 in the US. Not something we should just chuckle about.

Posted by: Frustrated Location: Georgetown on Oct 29, 2008 at 05:48 PM
So it's ok to leave up the Palin one but all the fuss over the Obama one??? If he wins this is the kind of stuff we are going to have to deal with all the time-overreaction over his race!!! Get over it people!

Posted by: some one in kentucky Location: kentucky on Oct 29, 2008 at 05:45 PM
now what about the palin one they found in ca.? nothing why? cause shes white.

Posted by: Joe Location: Corbin on Oct 29, 2008 at 05:42 PM
As of yesterday Sarah Palin was hanging in California and it has been called free speech. Will someone please tell me the difference?

Posted by: K Location: Ky on Oct 29, 2008 at 05:33 PM
This just amazes me!!! In Calf. the same thing is done and to a woman and nothning is done it is said to be a Haloween and no harm...in Ky it is done about a black person and it becomes a hate crime? Where is the justice in this? Why do we have double standards for blacks and whites? Should we not all be treated equal? If they call the one in Ky a hate crime then the one in Calf. should also be a hate crime and handled the same way!!!!!!! Wake up people...This is one of the reasons he will not make a good president. Also think about the things he has deceived from the American people...same church for 20 yrs and did'nt know they felt that way, attending flag burnings, changing his name? There are many other skeletons in that closet. His campaign fund, think of our economy and he has millions.. how is this possible? I don't have the extra to give to a campaign do you? I think not. Think about that for a moment.

Posted by: MARTIN Location: MISSOULA on Oct 29, 2008 at 05:26 PM
BOY YOU CAN HANG PALIN BUT NOT BARRACK, REVERSE RACISM. THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO HANG ANYONE IN EFFIGY, THIS IS AMERICA ISNT IT! PALIN EFFIGY GOT SWEPT UNDER THE RUG, THIS WILL BE A FEDERAL CASE.

Posted by: cry cry cry Location: pike on Oct 29, 2008 at 05:24 PM
palin effiigy hung in cali and mccain on fire in chimney. cali police say no harm done its deccorations. yet someone does the same thing to an obama figure and its an outrage. oh please spare me your whinning and sniveling. or do the same over the mccain and palin effigy in cali. this double standard leftist outlook is pathetic. you know your a hypocrit or a anti-white person when one upsets you but the other dont .

Posted by: Attorney SG Location: Virginia on Oct 29, 2008 at 05:19 PM
Both acts of hatred against Obama and Palin are shameful. But, Obama's effigy brings with it 200 years of history- it makes a statement to the rest of America that some people from Kentucky still believe in judgment by skin color (which is just a difference in melanin levels folks). Judge Obama by his policies, academic record, political record, not his melanin levels. How stupid is that? The simplest form of ignorance is racism. This is clearly not just "hype." Before carrying out such deplorable acts, whether its in Lexington or Hollywood, think about what you are telling the rest of America. I am an Attorney living outside Kentucky, but I have family in Lexington.. I'm not African American, and I am not defending anyone due to association. Rather, I feel the need to request all of you to use better judgment. One act of hatred publicized in our media can instigate and influence other worse attacks. Kentucky, I have more faith in you. I know you are better than this.

Posted by: Debbie Location: KY on Oct 29, 2008 at 05:18 PM
Maybe the guys in California that hung the Palin effigy knows the guys that did this to Obama. Perhaps the FBI should talk to them first. Of course the statement being made here is more than obvious: If the Obama Cult can dish it out then they ought to able to take it.

Posted by: Jbomb Location: danville on Oct 29, 2008 at 05:14 PM
Who cares about this? Heck, Sarah Palin is still hanging out in California. It's a joke, getter over it!!

Posted by: jjg Location: uk campus on Oct 29, 2008 at 05:12 PM
wheres the fed investigation for the palin effigy? this is ridiculous. talk about racism, they better start treating both sides equally or they are unfortunately going to see a lot more of this stupid stuff. they take obama down and leave palin up? this is absurd

Posted by: Truth Location: Teller on Oct 29, 2008 at 05:11 PM
LET THE WHINING BEGIN! Betcha the same Obamabots whom get all bent out of shape over this conveniently dismissed the similar stunt with a Palin mannikin out in Hollyweird.

Posted by: Paula Location: 41041 on Oct 29, 2008 at 05:10 PM
Don't make such a big deal out of it..There was an effigy of Sarah Palin found in California..it is a silly stunt by students NOT a racial item...The more you stir a stink, the worse it smells..

Posted by: darrell Location: pikeville on Oct 29, 2008 at 04:59 PM
Have the same federal investigators been notified about the Sarah Palin effigy from last week?

Posted by: justlikedave Location: KY on Oct 29, 2008 at 04:47 PM
I'm with Dave - Palin effigy has been up all week long - I don't see a public outcry over that! You minorities don't want double standards? Look in the mirror!

Posted by: GMack Location: Berea on Oct 29, 2008 at 04:44 PM
Congratulations Dr. Todd.....I'm sure you contacted the authorities in California too. I just know you are really upset about the Palin issue as well. Suck it up!!

Posted by: lbj Location: usa on Oct 29, 2008 at 04:44 PM
Regarding the Palin comparison - I don't recall white folks being lynched which is why the comparison is not appropriate. That said, I think both actions are disgusting to differing degrees.

Posted by: Astrid Location: Lexington on Oct 29, 2008 at 04:42 PM
This is ridiculous, and they way that they will prosecute this person is by saying that they did not put it up on their property, since it was found on campus property. it won't be treated as a joke because it was displayed in a public area. I think this is extremely stupid, just another example of "playing the race card". If Palin was black they'd be all over the people who put up that "effigy". What really seems stupid to me is that Obama didn't even identify as being black (he used to rely on his white grandparents, remember?) until he realized that as a black man he would have all of black america voting for him. then he changed his mind and started acting like a "black" man. And now here we are prosecuting this effigy because he's black. Ridiculous.

Posted by: lady Location: McKee on Oct 29, 2008 at 04:41 PM
This is ridiculous to raise such a fuss over. I hang a ghost in my tree does that make me hate the dead?

Posted by: ghettochip Location: richmond on Oct 29, 2008 at 04:40 PM
it's a racial statement. hang the clans(wo)man. that's what i want to see.

Posted by: Phil Location: C'burg on Oct 29, 2008 at 04:38 PM
I think this and the one of Palin is wrong.....but WHITE AMERICA better wake up,WE are being discriminated against.I guess Je$$ie and $harpton will get face time. Treat it the same........a bad joke

Posted by: Deuce on Oct 29, 2008 at 04:32 PM
Look, it doesn't matter who's hanging in the tree, it's wrong on every account. At least the guys that did it in California owned up to it, but they were still wrong. At UK, it was a cowardly action done out of frustration. There's no way you can write this off as a joke. It was the only way they could express themselves, because they don't have the since to just walk in a voting booth and vote for McCain and be done with it. It's frustration, and it makes me laugh.

Posted by: james Location: mount sterling on Oct 29, 2008 at 04:31 PM
STOP PLAYING THE RACE CARD & GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Tom Location: Boston on Oct 29, 2008 at 04:29 PM
I dont know about most of you, but an effigy of a black man hanging from a tree is the second most racist thing you can do outside of burning something jewish. yes it is a presidential candidate, but that only makes it worse. if you are too much of a dumb hik where you think hanging a likeness of a black presidental candidate from a tree is funny, you should go shoot yourself. and yes, I am a white male who finds this disgusting.

Posted by: Rick Location: OH on Oct 29, 2008 at 04:29 PM
Give me a BREAK!!! Palin, let it ride. Obama, lets play the race card and make it a federal offense. Dems, knew you would stoop to this eventually, get a freakin life already!!!

Posted by: Christina Location: Berea on Oct 29, 2008 at 04:18 PM
Palin Effigy in CA = Halloween Decoration Obama Effigy = Federal Investigation Something just doesnt seem quite right.

Posted by: rD Location: Frankfort on Oct 29, 2008 at 04:11 PM
Isn't UK state owned property. Property we as taxpaying citizen's own? Where is the freedom of speech here? Why isn't it still there. The one of Palin is still hanging. Liberals s*ck

Posted by: aelfheld Location: Weatherford, Texas on Oct 29, 2008 at 04:09 PM
Funny, don't hear y'all getting worked up over Sarah Palin being hanged in effigy. Oh wait. She's Republican. Never mind.

Posted by: Luke Location: Hazard, KY on Oct 29, 2008 at 04:06 PM
lololol Seriously, people. Get over it. There's a big difference between this one and Palin. Everyone's so quick to point out the double standard and I'm sure you all feel very intelligent to have noticed. Couple of problems with your argument: The gay couple hung it from private property. This is a college campus. Another difference is that the gay couple -was- decorating for Halloween. This was probably some drunk redneck kid/s (not that there's anything wrong with that) who thought it would be funny. It probably -was- a racial issue in this example, as I haven't heard of any other spontaneous "decorations" on the campus. I agree, the FBI should have much better things to do. Matter of fact, invite them to Hazard. I'm sure we could find something more serious to occupy their time. I doubt the media would think arresting drug dealers was as entertaining as a stuffed man hanging from a tree, though.

Posted by: LeRoy Location: CALIFORNIA on Oct 29, 2008 at 04:05 PM
The difference here is that the one of Palin is on private property and they cant force them to take it down. There has been an uproar and their neighbors are disgusted, both Rep and Dems. Nothing can be done really. UK campus had to do something about it.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 29, 2008 at 04:01 PM
I didn't realize there was as much stupidity in Kentucky as is evident in these comments. Either you are choosing to not understand the hate that comes from the historical context of hanging an effigy of a black person. Spend a few moments thinking about the difference between that and the simply tasteless hanging effigy of a white middle class person. This is unless all the jokes about Kentuckians really true.

Posted by: Diana on Oct 29, 2008 at 04:00 PM
This is only the beginning

Posted by: charles Location: gulf coast on Oct 29, 2008 at 03:58 PM
so its only racist if it is a effigy of someone who is black but ok if it is white . what a joke and what a shame that society is so politicaly correct that it can no longer live in reality .

Posted by: Melissa Location: Lexington, KY on Oct 29, 2008 at 03:56 PM
As a UK alum, I am extremely embarrased. Way to tap into our KY stereotype once again. The stunt with Mrs. Palin is also disgusting and tacky, but she didn't have two skinheads recently arrested for attempting to murder her like Mr. Obama did. There is much disrespect around on both sides for the two men who are Presidential Candidates. What's wrong with people? Everyone is so hateful these days, and it's completely unnecessary.

Posted by: Brenda Location: Salyersville on Oct 29, 2008 at 03:55 PM
If it's not wrong to hang an effigy of Sarah Palin, please explain to me why it is SO WRONG when it's Obama? Double standard???

Posted by: Madarchitect Location: West Palm Beach, FL on Oct 29, 2008 at 03:54 PM
Looks like the posters here are mainly "unlearned" McCain voters. So sad back in my home state.....

Posted by: Chris on Oct 29, 2008 at 03:45 PM
in Denton Texas someone had a noose hanging and it was considered "Racist". What the heck is the world coming to?

Posted by: Margie Location: knott,co on Oct 29, 2008 at 03:45 PM
DID THEY DO THIS IN CA.WERE SARAH PALIN IS HANGING FROM AT HOUSE

Posted by: Zatoichi Location: Richmond on Oct 29, 2008 at 03:42 PM
An immediate investigation must be done. The offender must be brought to justice and sentenced to many years in prison. Oh, the humanity...the humanity!

Posted by: Republican Location: Knox Co., KY on Oct 29, 2008 at 03:41 PM
This is the problem with the democrats in the country. They're going to waste dollars and time looking for a student with a bad sense of humor instead of some real criminal! If the Palin effigy was art, then the Obama effigy is, too. Why the double standard? Its stupid, I agree, but not exactly like they flew planes into buildings. Shouldn't the federal investigators be looking for people like that instead!

Posted by: jim Location: nj on Oct 29, 2008 at 03:38 PM
1st amendment protects this, i have seen or heard of bush, mccain, and palin all being hung in effigy. if obama is to be president he better get use to this, and not just in the usa, in europe,asia,africa and the middle east.now, it can be argued that this is wrong because it is on the grounds of a university, but i don't think that arguement holds up very well.

Posted by: UK Student on Oct 29, 2008 at 03:36 PM
This is really pathetic. I can't believe that people still do this stuff in 2008, we are suppose to be past that. Sure it's okay if you are an African American athlete or Rapper, so whats the problem with an African American president. Get over race and look at the person. I am Caucasion and I would be honored to have a president with Obama's intelligence and caring nature.

Posted by: Mark Location: NOT THERE! on Oct 29, 2008 at 03:29 PM
Still living right down to everyones expectations I see. Remind me to visit soon.

Posted by: Linda l Jones Location: McCreary County on Oct 29, 2008 at 03:27 PM
How can anyone in a college environment,be so incredibly unintelligent,as to do such a horrible thing?I truley feel sorry for them.

Posted by: jim Location: ky. on Oct 29, 2008 at 03:26 PM
so whats the big deal about Obama hanging from a tree? they found PALIN hanging from a chimmney folks its close to Halloween. OH I bet Obama does not believe in Halloween like he does not believe in CHRISTMAS.

Posted by: b_rock on Oct 29, 2008 at 03:26 PM
What if it was Henry Earl? Would there be so much fuss. Doubt it. What a waste of tax payers money looking for someone who was just playing a joke.

Posted by: Mich Location: Ozz on Oct 29, 2008 at 03:17 PM
This is stupid, but hilarious. I went to UK, and well, some students just get racist or become too over-the-top I guess. But, that's not how they should behave. And the fact that Todd is "disgusted" is because Obama is running for President, otherwise, he'd be just "oh well" about it. And if it was McCain, Todd would be like "I am horrified"! It's funny....but immature.

Posted by: Lexington Citizen Location: Lexington, KY on Oct 29, 2008 at 03:14 PM
I am very disturbed and upset that people are voicing their opinions in this way! It amazes me that someone has the nerve to do something like this. If you are reading this, what where you thinking?

Posted by: DC Location: Hazard on Oct 29, 2008 at 03:13 PM
That's right, blow it up out of proportion. It's a college campus for goodness sake, What about federal investigators? Tell them to catch a real crook, not hassle some student.

Posted by: dave Location: aurora,il on Oct 29, 2008 at 03:11 PM
so what? there's a palin effigy hanging in w.hollywood ca. and nobody is doing anything about it.

Posted by: Rob Location: tulsa on Oct 29, 2008 at 03:10 PM
oh, we can leave up one of Palin, but not Obama?

Posted by: cyrus Location: lexington on Oct 29, 2008 at 03:06 PM
why when sarah palins effigy was up in California it is just a joke and its funny with no arrests,but now that its Obama its a federal offence. Are you serious

Posted by: Bill Location: Lexington on Oct 29, 2008 at 02:57 PM
Real classy. Of course, had this been done in Hollywood, would they have called it a Halloween statement and protected it with Freedom of Speech?

Posted by: mj Location: lex on Oct 29, 2008 at 02:56 PM
Apparently, the one of Sara Palin in CA is still hanging.

Posted by: Paul on Oct 29, 2008 at 02:54 PM
Amazing how this is immediately taken care of, but the hanging Palin is just a statement.

Posted by: Mike Location: Ohio on Oct 29, 2008 at 02:53 PM
Funny, a Palin effigy hanging in CA is fine and this is a crime.

Posted by: Just Me Location: Mountains of KY on Oct 29, 2008 at 02:53 PM
An effigy was found this morning of Sarah Palin, hanging by the neck. Yes, both of these are disturbing.

Posted by: Jen Location: Lex on Oct 29, 2008 at 02:51 PM
Double Standard! When it involved McCain and Palin it was reported as a Halloween decoration. Typical!

Posted by: Billy Location: Madison on Oct 29, 2008 at 02:49 PM
So whats the problem? There is an effigyof Sarah Palin hanging in W Hollywood. I am sure it is just a Halloween prop and is protected by free speech. Before any says it isnt right for a black man to be shown in this way, Obama is 42.5% Arab 50% white and only 6.5% black. No Different than the W. Hollywood display

Posted by: mj on Oct 29, 2008 at 02:48 PM
there is no difference in this and what the other guys did with the Palin doll...these guys will prob get charged with a hate crime, when the other ones should have been charged also...

Posted by: lucy Location: chicago on Oct 29, 2008 at 02:47 PM
This is very disturbing... my daughter goes there!

Posted by: Joey Location: CA on Oct 29, 2008 at 02:46 PM
Why was it funny when it was Palin hanging from a tree in southern CA? They should be mad that this happened in both situations, not just this one and the other is funny.

Posted by: Jimmy Location: Nashville on Oct 29, 2008 at 02:45 PM
So hanging Sarah Palin's effigy is okay, because the people who hung it are a "protected class" and live in California. Same thing different side of the ailes and in KY is racism????? This is a double standard. Where is the secret service in Cali??? Where is the outcry that any death threat should be dealt with swiftly and severly. Bet Sharpton/Jackson show up in Ky and send thank you cards to the California guys. What a mentally ill country we have become.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 29, 2008 at 02:44 PM
This morning the news said a dwelling house had an effigy of Sarah Palin hanging with a rope around it's neck from a chimney. Yes, both of these are disturbing.

Posted by: Welsh Location: Texas on Oct 29, 2008 at 02:41 PM
Oh the Irony a gay couple hangs an effigy of Palan and recieves acclaim from liberals. Some hangs a effigy of Obama and its a federal crime. The double standard of the loonie left is truely amazing.

Posted by: Tom Location: Poconos on Oct 29, 2008 at 02:40 PM
What is wrong with that? Where is the big outrage over Sarah Palin hanging in Cali? It is "ART" and for holloween they should of kept it up.

Posted by: Bill Location: Atlanta, GA on Oct 29, 2008 at 02:38 PM
Yet.. the hanging effigy of Sarah Palin is left hanging. Nice double standard liberals! You sicken me.. all of you!

Posted by: John Location: Osmon on Oct 29, 2008 at 02:37 PM
An Effigy of Sarah Palin hangs by a noose in West Hollywood, CA. The secret service said it is viewed as nothing more than a halloween prank. Is this news story "news" because of the race card? I hope not.

Posted by: Donald Location: Richmond on Oct 29, 2008 at 02:36 PM
Sometimes I am embarrassed by my fellow Kentucky citizens.... Just sad.

Posted by: Miranda Location: MT olivet on Oct 29, 2008 at 02:34 PM
If the federal government is not going to do anything about the Sarah Palin effigy they should let this one go to. they can't say one is ok and the other is not.

Posted by: Anon Location: KY on Oct 29, 2008 at 02:26 PM
What about the effigy of Gov. Palin hanging in a West Hollywood store? That one is getting next to no coverage, and it was up before this one. The police there are not bringing the Feds in or even calling it any kind of crime.

Posted by: Whitey Location: Anonymous on Oct 29, 2008 at 02:20 PM
1ST AMENDMENT FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION....STUPID MIND YOU, BUT PROTECTED SPEECH UNDER OUR CONSTITUTION.

Posted by: Jo jo Location: Lexington on Oct 29, 2008 at 02:01 PM
what is aeffigy???? be clearer with your words. i'd smack the fool that did this

Posted by: EmptySuit Location: Baltimore on Oct 29, 2008 at 02:00 PM
Funny how the Palin effigy is art and this is a hate crime. Only difference is a matter of private property versus UK property. The hypocrisy here is unbelievable.

Posted by: Dee Location: Georgetown on Oct 29, 2008 at 01:53 PM
Has no one heard of the one in LA of Sarah Palin? Neither one is right, they are both wrong to do, no mater who it is.

Posted by: g Location: g on Oct 29, 2008 at 01:51 PM
/would this much coverage been done if it had been McCain or Palin's?

Posted by: wall55 Location: Berea on Oct 29, 2008 at 01:36 PM
Oh my gosh, people need to grow up.

Posted by: JC Location: Madison County on Oct 29, 2008 at 01:34 PM
What is the difference between this and the one that was hung of governer Palin and Senator McCain in California. There is NO difference!

Posted by: KentuckyGuy Location: Bluegrass on Oct 29, 2008 at 01:29 PM
It would have been ok if it had been another Palin effigy. No hate involved there...right Democrats?

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